Brother in law is a heating engineer and tells me BG get their boilers cheaper as they agree a much shorter warranty with suppliers.
not sure if this is 100% or if he is just resenting BG for stealing his business? At work
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Syd, unfortunately the new rules state that though you have a flue it cannot be used with a new boiler, though I would query that if your flue is a lined chimney I would consider the lining is not the flue, the flue is the part from the boiler to the liner, there should be a gas tight join and plate below the flue/liner connection. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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I find this thread a bit strange.
So many people will scrimp on their central heating install but think nothing of spending tens of thousands of £ on a new car every coup!e of years.
Then there are people who think nothing of spending large amounts of cash on extended warranty's for their cars so that they can run to the dealers if something goes wrong, because they feel reassured.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at the contributors to the thread. It's just I have had over 40years of this type of illogical thinking.

I even once went to do an estimate for a boiler change at the second home of a premiership/international footballers home. To heat the house would have required a modular boiler system ( more than one boiler linked together ). When given the price he said " I think I could get that cheaper over the Internet". " good luck with that I said" and left him to it. By the way his existing boiler was not only not working but leaking water all over the garage floor.  Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
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gasman wrote:

By the way his existing boiler was not only not working but leaking water all over the garage floor.

"So many people will scrimp on their central heating install but think nothing of spending tens of thousands of £ on a new car every couple of years."

LoL

When I got my BG quote of £3,400 and after searching I got a quote for a better boiler for £1800 all in, I was talking to my mate, telling him I still hadn’t finished looking for quotes and he pointed to a watch I was wearing that I had recently bought for more than the price of a boiler install and he asked me what would give me hot water and keep me warm for at least the next 10 winters, it put everything in perspective.  Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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gasman wrote:

I find this thread a bit strange.
So many people will scrimp on their central heating install but think nothing of spending tens of thousands of £ on a new car every coup!e of years.
Then there are people who think nothing of spending large amounts of cash on extended warranty's for their cars so that they can run to the dealers if something goes wrong, because they feel reassured.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at the contributors to the thread. It's just I have had over 40years of this type of illogical thinking.

I even once went to do an estimate for a boiler change at the second home of a premiership/international footballers home. To heat the house would have required a modular boiler system ( more than one boiler linked together ). When given the price he said " I think I could get that cheaper over the Internet". " good luck with that I said" and left him to it. By the way his existing boiler was not only not working but leaking water all over the garage floor.

It depends on how you look at it, if you change your car every three or four years and negotiate the best deal for what you want as reliability and use then you should approach a central heating system the same way, in other words change it every four to five years when the warranty runs out, why keep something for years as it must become unreliable. Most boilers contain generic parts just like cars, it's the way they are installed and connected to other generic parts that seem to prooduce unreliability. Worcester Bosch a few years ago had heat exchanger problems that caused them warranty problems and costs, after that the price increased as did the length of warranty, the cost of most boilers is in the warranty not the materials, maybe that's the reason for BG costs. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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Sidthecat wrote:

See where you're coming from, but there's a difference between 'scrimping' and feeling that an estimate is way higher than perhaps it could be when compared like for like with a competitors? If you saw two identical items in the shops, one being a lot less than the other then you'd buy it at the cheaper price - is that scrimping, or common sense?

I'm not advocating on behalf of B.G. or anyone else for that matter.
As it says, now retired and BL**DY glad. Got sick and tired of listening to customers winging about the price of repairs to appliances that were well past scrappage but too mean to invest in a new one.
Could just be the cynic in me but I think it could be down to the fact that the neighbours can see the shiny new car on the drive but not the new boiler in the cupboard or utility room.
I suppose if the boiler breaks down the family can always sit in the car with the heater on.

Anyway that's me done........…..carry on debating.  Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
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I shouldn’t have joined in here, this morning woke up to a cold house, bloody boiler didn’t fire.....all running, water pumping etc but no flame......so off at the mains and turn on again and hey presto all working again, I keep telling Mrs BB the 25 year old Vaillant needs a service!

Think we’ll wait until spring......  Regards

David

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Boxbrownie wrote:

I shouldn’t have joined in here, this morning woke up to a cold house, bloody boiler didn’t fire.....all running, water pumping etc but no flame......so off at the mains and turn on again and hey presto all working again, I keep telling Mrs BB the 25 year old Vaillant needs a service!

Think we’ll wait until spring......

I am sure it’ll all be fine............probably  Regards

David

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Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

Finally, new boiler being installed today and tomorrow. Having got a quote from BG 'yes sir, sell the house to pay our quotation' I called/emailed four other firms on Trusted Trader, Rated Trader etc etc and only received a response from one. Local firm, well recommended, ironically about half-mile away. Can't fault them so far, field engineer attended on time, decent quote, due here in 20 minutes. Significant Other managed to get herself a couple of client visits both days so she'll be away from the noise, cold . . .
Let's just see what it's like tomorrow night
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