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daddyo



Member Since: 30 Jul 2013
Location: Scotland
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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Stornoway Grey

Hi, yes it was exactly like that. Just some clicks then nothing. The Land Rover dealer and the AA guy said it was a "sticky starter motor" coz it started when I gave the starter motor a tap. Resolved by forking out £350 for a new starter motor. No problems with it at all since then and thats been about 3 weeks and it even sounds better when starting. I'm loving my FL2 again.

Hope this helps

Post #202209 7th Oct 2013 11:22 am
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emetoolite



Member Since: 07 Oct 2013
Location: Newbury
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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Ipanema Sand

daddyo wrote:
Thanks for that guys. But I'm useless at mechanical things and I don't know anybody who is. When I read about the earth strap my mind went blank. Is this something my LR dealer would know about or could I take it to Quick Fit and plead honest ignorance?

I know, real men should be good at this stuff but I have even cut my hand on a fairy liquid bottle and don't even mention Ikea! Embarassed


At least you are here searching for a solution. IMO that makes u a real man Thumbs Up
By the way, almost anybody can do this, that includes u Shocked
Your LR dealer will be most reluctant to do it perhaps cos it sounds too simple
Perhaps those who have done it may assist wt pics so u can better appreciate how simple this may be.

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emetoolite



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Ipanema Sand

daddyo wrote:
Hi, yes it was exactly like that. Just some clicks then nothing. The Land Rover dealer and the AA guy said it was a "sticky starter motor" coz it started when I gave the starter motor a tap. Resolved by forking out £350 for a new starter motor. No problems with it at all since then and thats been about 3 weeks and it even sounds better when starting. I'm loving my FL2 again.

Hope this helps


Thanks. I'm feeling really positive about this.
Will be home in 2wks time.
Hope to work along this line and ofcoz install an extra earthing cable as so many has suggested here.
I am also thinking my battery may not be recharging sufficiently, perhaps it is the heavy surge of current required for start-up and repeated start-ups that drains the battery.

Will take it one at a time and post a feedback when i'm home

Post #202218 7th Oct 2013 1:56 pm
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emetoolite



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Ipanema Sand

So i'm back home. Came in yesday, and jumped on the vehicle to try out all d ideas from the trails.

Firstly i checked for battery drain with my digital multimeter (DM), didnt come up with any result. Guess i did this wrong or maybe meter issues. Vehicle power off, negative battery terminal/earth strap disconn, DM switch on DC Amps, DM red wire in 20A socket, DM black wire in COM. Then connected DM black wire to disconnected earth strap, and DM red wire to negative battery terminal. Result = 0A. Not sure where i went wrong. I even opened the driver door to intentionally introduced current, same result.

Secondly i tried the extra earth strap - Battery negative terminal to Body, no result. Vehicle still fail to turn over. battery @ 12.57V.

Next i took out the bottom protective plate gave the starter and solenoid a tap. Tried starting, vehicle turned and started as though there was no problem in the first place. Switched off, tried again, back to base. Need some more taps i guessed.

Took out the starter assembly. Tested unit according to this youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PWG6Il_ZJI) and it failed the solenoid test. Took out the 3 screws that secures solenoid, water found inside solenoid enclosure Shocked - Perhaps thats why its failing. Got a replacement solenoid, coupled it, and reinstalled starter assembly to engine.

Then comes the moment of truth....

Key fob in dash, leg on brake pedal, push start button, engine turning, engine start. Stop. Retry, ok. Stop. Retry, ok. Stop. Retry, ok. Made a couple of short trips around town to get tools and parts for lube oil change out, vehicle starting like brand new. I think i'm lovin this.

Bottom protective plate still out. Will replace lube oil later before reinstalling.

Thanks guys for all the help, me wife thinks i'm a superstar. Her baby is back on the road.

Will update on how the oil change went, hopefully.

Post #204613 26th Oct 2013 12:09 am
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andycwb



Member Since: 08 Oct 2013
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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Ipanema Sand

GWB1967 wrote:

Mine was apparently fixed by Hunters in Guilford. At least I have a copy of the invoice from them that they gave my dealer.


For independents, I've heard good things about challenger 4x4 in Tongham, but don't know how good they are with the Freelander. A little further afield, Nick Kerner 4x4 in Winkfield (between Bracknell and Ascot) are extremely good.

Andy 2011 MY SD4 HSE + planning some interesting stuff
Previously: 2004 Discovery Td5 ES Premium + lots of stuff
Previously: P38A Range Rover 4.0 SE
Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response Founder and Treasurer

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andycwb



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Ipanema Sand

Pegleg wrote:
Most vehicles used to be designed with an additional earth strap.
It was considered a safety issue. If one became loose or heavily corroded, the vehicle would still run.
Dangerous to have engine power failure; particularly on mways.


There's also a possibility of the negative lead of an after market radio or similar forming an earth path between its mountings and the battery if it's wired direct to the battery. This is why some radios (generally higher powered stuff than CB) have fuses in both leads.

Andy 2011 MY SD4 HSE + planning some interesting stuff
Previously: 2004 Discovery Td5 ES Premium + lots of stuff
Previously: P38A Range Rover 4.0 SE
Hampshire and Berkshire 4x4 Response Founder and Treasurer

Post #204617 26th Oct 2013 6:39 am
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Cutch



Member Since: 25 Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
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Australia 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Rimini Red

I've suffered this problem, usually when I'm far from home. Weekend before last 500 km from home it misbehaved all weekend sometimes a few km's from the nearest road. We resorted to the hammer remedy and it's started every time since. We think it is because we left the hammer out instead of putting it back in the tool box!

I'm told that the starter solenoid is a known weakness with Nippon Denso starters which also affects Land Cruisers Cruisers (and I'm sure many other makes).

Mine's being replaced tomorrow after fitting a test light between the signal wire and earth as suggested above. The battery was replaced and an additional earth strap added without solving the problem.

Post #206183 7th Nov 2013 3:37 am
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Richard2424



Member Since: 12 Nov 2013
Location: Solihull, UK
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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Zermatt Silver
Inermittent Starting Problem

My 2007 TD4 XS manual was recently regularly failing to start after pressing the clutch and then the start button. Repeatedly pressing and lifting the clutch with a click each time eventually started the car. Of course it never exhibited this when I took it in to my main dealer!
There is a free relevant software update LTB00093 which they tried but did not solve the problem. Took it in again the next time and left it overnight with them as it usually failed in the morning. Guess what.... it didn't misbehave when I took it in.
The technician then had an idea it could be the switch on the clutch pedal acting erratic and sometimes inhibiting starting so as it's only cheap they replaced it and IT WORKS!!
So don't fork out on a solenoid refurb or starter motor just yet...I'd suggest the software upgrade and a new inhibitor switch if anyone has a similar problem. Full marks to my local LR main dealer!

Very Happy

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Nommo



Member Since: 02 Dec 2013
Location: London
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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 S Auto Orkney Grey

I recently had this intermittent starting issue with my 2007 TD4 S Auto which I bought in the autumn. I initially suspected a poor battery but this was not the case. Following the thread above I decided to buy a Solenoid repair kit (£16.10 including postage from RepairkitsUK). Fortunately my brother loves this sort of job as a lot of covers and hoses have to be removed to get to the starter motor but he managed to remove this and change to contact parts on the solenoid. The difference in quality (thickness) of the contacts is very clear. It seems the original part on the FL2 were not up to the job.

Despite cold, damp weather the car has started first time every time since Saturday when the repair kit was installed. Cost just the £16.10 plus a crate of beers!

Hope this helps somebody with a similar problem.

Post #210679 11th Dec 2013 12:17 pm
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vanadium23



Member Since: 04 May 2013
Location: Isle of Man
Posts: 38

Isle Of Man 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Been experiencing exactly same problems recently - been going through quite a few big puddles recently which may have aggravated the solenoid problem.

This forum is a mine of information!

Have sent away for a RepairKit .....

Post #213153 6th Jan 2014 8:32 pm
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Pegleg



Member Since: 15 Apr 2010
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Wales 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Santorini Black

Starter solenoid failures are nothing new.
Most garage workshops can't be arsed to fiddle around with it, take the easy way out and replace a perfectly good starter motor. Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

Post #213162 6th Jan 2014 9:28 pm
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emetoolite



Member Since: 07 Oct 2013
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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Ipanema Sand

emetoolite wrote:
So i'm back home. Came in yesday, and jumped on the vehicle to try out all d ideas from the trails.

Firstly i checked for battery drain with my digital multimeter (DM), didnt come up with any result. Guess i did this wrong or maybe meter issues. Vehicle power off, negative battery terminal/earth strap disconn, DM switch on DC Amps, DM red wire in 20A socket, DM black wire in COM. Then connected DM black wire to disconnected earth strap, and DM red wire to negative battery terminal. Result = 0A. Not sure where i went wrong. I even opened the driver door to intentionally introduced current, same result.

Secondly i tried the extra earth strap - Battery negative terminal to Body, no result. Vehicle still fail to turn over. battery @ 12.57V.

Next i took out the bottom protective plate gave the starter and solenoid a tap. Tried starting, vehicle turned and started as though there was no problem in the first place. Switched off, tried again, back to base. Need some more taps i guessed.

Took out the starter assembly. Tested unit according to this youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PWG6Il_ZJI) and it failed the solenoid test. Took out the 3 screws that secures solenoid, water found inside solenoid enclosure Shocked - Perhaps thats why its failing. Got a replacement solenoid, coupled it, and reinstalled starter assembly to engine.

Then comes the moment of truth....

Key fob in dash, leg on brake pedal, push start button, engine turning, engine start. Stop. Retry, ok. Stop. Retry, ok. Stop. Retry, ok. Made a couple of short trips around town to get tools and parts for lube oil change out, vehicle starting like brand new. I think i'm lovin this.

Bottom protective plate still out. Will replace lube oil later before reinstalling.

Thanks guys for all the help, me wife thinks i'm a superstar. Her baby is back on the road.

Will update on how the oil change went, hopefully.


Two and half years later, still loving this baby Rolling with laughter . No repeat of starting problems after the starter solenoid was replaced.

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Omid Maxloo



Member Since: 26 Aug 2020
Location: Port Elizabeth
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South Africa 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Alaska White

Good day all,

I'd like to first thank you for all the consistent care and useful advices. I bought a SE TD4 from a friend which was experiencing the very same problem. After it completely gave up, I looked for solution and ended up reading this post. The problem with mine was SOLENOID KIT and PLUNGER. It was easy to diagnose after I told the auto electrician and they fixed it in the matter of hours. It didn't cost so much and the car is perfectly fine. Cheers!

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bomeo



Member Since: 30 Apr 2018
Location: Focsani
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Romania 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 S Manual Galway Green

OK, all good on this thread but I must ask. When atempting to start did you hear the starter tryng to engage ? A CLONK noise or similar ? Or not. This is importanta because if the CLONK is present this means that the 12V reached the solenoid but the plunger does not fully engage. If there is No clonk the 12v does not arrive to the solenoid wich is another matter. So, did you hear CLONK or not. Smile

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Omid Maxloo



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South Africa 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Alaska White

I would say it was more like a click noise, os a soft clunk! and It'd happen only once for each try.

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