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dorsetfreelander



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

AndreO wrote:
. Then somewhere a clever form guy said these symptoms were mostly common to woman drivers. It originates from the hand cream before going shopping, etc. The rubber casing around the key swells and sticks in the slot. ..... It had grown by about 0.020". Yes, I had to remove the nice white decals on the face side, but the key now get pulled in smoothly in and out.


Just to be clear we are talking about the key fob growing after being handled by your wife right? Shocked 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto no real problems
FL2 S 08 reg 100k no problems
FL2 S 10 reg Gearbox, clutch, throttle body, drive shaft, steering reservoir
FL2 GS 60 reg xfer box, diff and wheel bearings
FL2 GS 11 reg gearbox ,hesitation, exhaust sensors, wiper stalk,
FL2 XS 14 reg SD4 Auto , door lock problem @ 29k

Post #387933 10th Mar 2020 11:45 am
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AndreO



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South Africa 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Stornoway Grey

Jip. I could not work out why the spare key worked every time, but the normal everyday key started playing up. It drove me crazy. Until I found out the spare key had play in the slot, and the everyday key had no play, although it did not have any resistance.. That is just enough for the mechanism to get confused - not pulling in the key or ejecting it smoothly.
The rubber around the buttons swells with prolonged contact with any form of oil. Many people have a shower and then smear their hands with handcream or moisturizer before going shopping etc.
I measured both keys with a Vernier and found the 0.020" (only half a millimeter) thickness difference.
I very carefully sanded both the bottom hard plastic and the top with the buttons down with a smoothly worn belt sander until both keys were the same thickness and there was a slight rattle-fit in the slot. Unfortunately you lose the white paint on the buttons.
Together with that and the extra earth cable my years of starting pains is gone.

But last month my diff pinion bearing ( a classic forum issue) went for a loop (127k km on the clock) and I got an exchange diff. Wow. Car is super quiet now...amazing how one gets used to a noise when it progresses minutely over time, like 20,000km...

Post #387997 11th Mar 2020 10:47 am
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haasad



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2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Lux Manual Orkney Grey

Well I re did the earthing with a decent sized cable, cleaned all the conections, fitted new starter terminals.
Starting issue with random dash messages like HDC fault, special programmes, wipers stroking, temp guage going to full scale and other random stuff. Seems worse when cold or first start if the day
Seems to always start eventually.
Anybody got any ideas about next steps ?

Post #388166 14th Mar 2020 9:10 am
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andyk159



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Battery!
Had similar issues and didn't think it could be battery as only 2 years old with 4 year warranty. However, proved to be faulty and not holding enough charge to satisfy power hungry electrics.
New battery cured all issues. Andy
Freelander2 HSE (59 Plate, MY10 spec)
Stornoway Grey with Almond leather interior.
Evoque '506' 18" wheels with Pirelli Scorpion Verde tyres.
Colour coded Door Handles and side trim.

Post #388177 14th Mar 2020 10:57 am
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shiggsy



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Baltic Blue

hassad, pull back the carpet in the passenger footwell beneath the glovebox, there are 3 connector blocks which can start to become disconnected, especially if a passenger hits them with their foot. Might be worth a check. 
Hung like Einstein, smart as a horse.

Post #388179 14th Mar 2020 11:17 am
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haasad



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Thank you both it's a brand new battery . Voltage drop check shows less than 1v when cranking so all good there. I'll go check the connection blocks now.

haasad

Post #388192 14th Mar 2020 1:14 pm
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haasad



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Nothing obviously amiss with the connection blocks nor the fuses. Booking it in for a diagnostic...

Post #388296 15th Mar 2020 10:42 pm
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haasad



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2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Lux Manual Orkney Grey

Thought I'd complete this , diagnostic showed nothing. ..so back to basics. Carefully cleaned all original earth and positive main battery connections at each end. Same with the supplementary earth . Cut back and recrimped the starter solenoid positive feed. Removed the starter and went back through the fitting of the new contact kit not that it was complicated....Anyway three potential issues found and corrected. The solenoid wire was a little corroded , I now have a clean as new connection, likewise the stater main positive connection under the plastic cap wasn't the best, now cleaned up. And the contacts kit I fitted was slightly skewed meaning the plunger would have to accommodate a mismatch in heights of about 0.2 mm. Simple to correct by adjusting the bend in the new contact. I checked full contact using engineers blue.
All reassembled.. worked perfectly this morning in frosty weather which it's never done before...hopefully now fixed.

Post #388938 25th Mar 2020 9:16 am
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SYFL2



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Fingers crossed but from what you’ve said I think you got it now.

Post #388939 25th Mar 2020 10:09 am
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haasad



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2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Lux Manual Orkney Grey

Yes I hope so , dodgy handbrake is the next fix . new cables on order as the shoes are fine .

Post #388953 25th Mar 2020 1:14 pm
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haasad



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Went too early ....9 attempts to start this morning. same issues. time to have someone dig into the dreaded computer stuff....good news is it always starts eventually then is normal all day.

Post #389012 26th Mar 2020 11:12 am
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