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Lightwater



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From the box at the back the first couple of metres is one piece.

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 Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Post #273833 26th Aug 2015 10:31 pm
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Stuartc



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Thxs Lightwater Thumbs Up
Seems like the service sleeve is my issue now! Rolling Eyes MY15
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Mav71 showed how it was done

Mav71 wrote:
It has been a busy morning this morning! Decided to get the rear silencer fitted. So I went to the exhaust place near me that fitted the i6 silencer to the last car.

So I'll let the pictures do the talking!

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So, all done. Just arrived home to see that my exhaust tips have arrived, so I will get them fitted and post up another pic later on when she is all clean.

But While I was out, I went to see another contact to have a full geometry check done as the steering wheel was never perfectly central when I bought it.. I am a bit anal on the subject of geometry lol!!

Although it was all in tolerance, they did make adjustments to make it all spot on accurate! The car drives so much better for it as well, and the steering wheel is now bang on!!

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Thxs Thumbs Up Yes I have that information but it doesn't say anything in the Topix Service Manual about flaring the back box pipe when you use the Service Sleeve. The Service Sleeve is meant to facilitate the joining of two equal diameter pipes. Anyhow I might end up doing this I'm just waiting on confirmation that the sleeve is correct.
Be good to hear from someone who has used this! MY15
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Could you get a pipe to cover both ends that you are joining together that fits tight enough to fit within the coupler, if you slit this pipe down its length then it would close down when you tighten the coupler? Would have thought that would be easier unless you have access to a flaring machine?

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Lightwater



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It may just be easier to take it to a mechanic and get them to install it. It's not going to take that long and they can weld it in place properly. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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UPDATE

Went into main dealer today with back box and clamp and met with head workshop technician. He tried to rattle gun the clamp/sleeve onto the back box and agreed it was not correct sleeve. He confirm that all LR's utilize this method and that it was suppose to just slide over each end of the pipe and clamp. Interestingly the parts department had ordered another sleeve which was identical.
A technical quiery has now been put into LR so I'll have to wait until we get a reply. MY15
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Post #273961 28th Aug 2015 8:41 am
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Lightwater



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Or if you want to expand the pipe yourself:

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-st...mendations Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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denta



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Probably I did not catch correctly the issue, but why don't you buy this one from ebay???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sleeve-56mm-to-6...4acaff6360

on ebay I also found a couple of Evoque double exhaust system at 75 pounds, but the shipping costs to Italy proposed by sellers are too high... Sad

Post #273967 28th Aug 2015 9:23 am
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Whilst the Evoque system is exactly the same the box is tilted at a different angle, hanger locations are different and outlet pipes are closer together than the Freelander.
Thanks for the suggestion Denta but I'm wanting to use all LR original parts, including the OE SS Finishers to maintain the factory look. The quality is far better also.

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Stuartc



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Lightwater wrote:
Or if you want to expand the pipe yourself:

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-st...mendations


Oh wow, cool tool, didn't know you could get one! Thxs Lightwater Thumbs Up

If I have to flare the pipe then I'll probably go to my trusty LR guy to help me.
I'm 99% sure I'll use the LR clamp as long as I can get correct part! It's how it's meant to be done Thumbs Up MY15
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Lightwater



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Looking at images using an 'exhaust band clamp' it still looks like one pipe has been flared and the clamp goes over the top with half of the band covering the flared end (female) of the pipe and half of the band covering the other pipe (male) which was not flared. This would make the join of the pipes very stable.

It doesn't look like the two pipes were simply butted end to end. If the pipes are end to end the band clamp would need to be far more solid. But that could cause other issues being too solid. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Stuartc



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According to the head workshop technician today no flaring was necessary and that the sleeve is what they use on all the replacement box's on LR's and that the one I had from the parts department was wrong.
If you flare one pipe then when you put the sleeve over the female section the sleeve is as in this pic, the diameter is too large and even at full adjustment there is about 4mm of space between sleeve and pipe.

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Lightwater



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The band in the various images do seem to be much thinner material than this one. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Stuartc



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If your referring to the above picture the LR sleeve is a robust piece of Stainless Steel. Quite up to the job, probably over engineered which I don't mind.



You can't see in these pics but the inner sleeve has material removed to facilitate the diameter of the sleeve to decrease and grip the inner pipe. The technician had it so wound up that the centre had buckled and it just fell off! He was convinced it was not correct sleeve. MY15
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