CCTV laws are pretty ridiculous

For instance, you can have a camera pointing directly into someones house. Any room at all, recording whatever may happen.
There is no law preventing you from doing this, but there are laws dictating you cannot publish the footage in the public domain, but its fine to keep it for "personal use"

I should say, this is in Scotland. rUK has differing laws...

The common law of England and Wales does not recognise a specific right to privacy and there is no actionable tort of infringement of privacy. However, the right to privacy is a broad notion which encompasses a variety of more specific rights protected by the common law or by statute, including the right to be left alone, the right to communicate privately, the right not to have personal information published without lawful authority, and rights of access and control over the use of personal information. The torts of defamation and malicious falsehood and the equitable doctrine of breach of confidence also protect interests that contain elements of privacy. The right to be free from arbitrary entries, searches and seizures is an aspect of the general right to liberty, privacy and natural justice.

If you were involved in any dispute before a court, you can ask the court to consider your rights under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights. This gives people a right to respect for a private and family life, home and correspondence. This is a qualified right and is subject to interference from the state providing that interference is in accordance with the derogations of the Article and is proportionate to the legitimate aim. The derogations are national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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Does that mean i should put a sign up then Doc?
Nigel

Nope. I am unaware of anything that would prevent the police from using it. In fact, I would like to know what your friend has to support this apparent information.

The police obtain footage from places all the time and exhibit the footage and lets face it, many crims are so thick that they can't read anyway. Perhaps the crims are illegal immigrants so now we should have CCTV signs in every language just in case and make sure the sign is well lit in case they break in at night.

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I'm about ready to buy a kit but just need a final bit of advice.

Can any experts on here tell me if this is a reasonable enough kit for my needs? Just to recap, It's only for home use, cameras will be fitted outside under the eaves looking down on my drive/garage/garden and can be viewed when away from the house. I'll be siting the kit in my loft and main viewing will be on an iPad or iPhone. Will use an old telly for playback viewing if ever necessary. Will these unit work together? Will I be able to connect the DVR unit to my powered TV amplifier/splitter in the loft for viewing on the TV's in the house? Reason I want these cameras is that wifey doesn't want bullet type cameras fitted.

DVR: http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/swann-dvr8-4400-...-dvr-a45tq

Cameras: http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/swann-pro-843-90...pack-a33tw

Once set up, I can connect the DVR in the loft to my router in the hall by using a powerline kit.

Have I got all that right??????

I know some people don't rate Swann stuff but the one we have in work has been fine for 4 years plus, if I buy it from a shop (Maplins) it's easy to take it back if it goes wrong - I hate returning stuff through the post!

Ok, I can't comment on the specific cameras but I will add what I can.

With regards to watching the feed on TVs, I think most Swann kit only has the analogue AV out, which is the standard yellow phono connection. This isn't like an aerial feed that you can split and feed round all the TVs. This needs a direct connection to the back of a TV for live streaming. You may be able to get wireless transmitters though that would help.

You can however use the Swann app to watch a live stream from your iPad or phone or Android device which would get around that issue.

Lastly, with regards to watching it while out of the house, you need 1 of 2 things:

1: a static IP address with your broadband. If you don't know what is you probably don't have one.

2: a router capable of doing DDNS. Most can but they vary in what services they will work with. You need this in order to direct your phone to the feed of the camera. Swann kit works with DynDNS I think and maybe others, but you need to sign up for an account, which may cost. You'd need to check.

The external viewing bit is the tricky bit, but worth it.

Hope that's of some help. Learned to drive in 2011.
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Guidelines on CCTV use for private individuals

https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/

Have you read the Maplin review that's been left for that DVR ?

One bit of advice I would give is make sure you have relatively easy access to the lense as you will need to clean it often. When it rains, droplets dry on the lense, it's not a problem during the day, but it will obliterate the night vision. Also spiders like to build webs across the lense to so they need clearing away fairly regulary. 
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Lastly, with regards to watching it while out of the house, you need 1 of 2 things:

1: a static IP address with your broadband. If you don't know what is you probably don't have one.

2: a router capable of doing DDNS. Most can but they vary in what services they will work with. You need this in order to direct your phone to the feed of the camera. Swann kit works with DynDNS I think and maybe others, but you need to sign up for an account, which may cost. You'd need to check.

The external viewing bit is the tricky bit, but worth it.

Hope that's of some help.

This is a subject close to my heart.

About 6 weeks ago I had £500 of garden furniture nicked. The police in their usual fashion couldn't give a s**t so I ended up buying a camera for outdoors. I decided to get an wifi IP camera and spent around £65. I mounted it close to a hole I had drilled in my wall for a previous satellte installtion so I could get power to it. Had no end of issues with it so sent it back.

The replacement was supposed to be wifi but it was hard wired etherent. I had a wireless extender in cloise proximity so decided to run an etherent cable. This camera is vari focus 1080p. Yes you can spend a hell of a lot on these cameras but this was around £80

Gave the camera a fixed IP and it was all ready to go.

Next challenge was a decent piece of software. Tried loads until I decided on ispy - it's open source and the only limitation over not buying a pro version is really that it doesn't email you alerts. But its got motion sensing etc in it.

As for the quality of the camera. Not bad but certainly not 1080p. Night time vision is very good though. There is quite a bit of tweaking to be done to get the software to talk to the camera and some of these tweaks involve the resolution. I found that if set too high you get occasional interference which creates a recording. The range of the camera is ok as well as I am monitoring a 30ft by 30ft area and the software can be configured to exlude areas, such as trees, which might create a false positive.

Woudl I spend more on a camera in future - yes probably and also get one that is listed in thee softwrae setup rather than a standard ONVIF camera.

Only thing I caught to date is the wife putting the washing out. Oh and the occasional spider who crawls around at night on the lens and looks like some ghost

Now I just need the little beggar who nicked my stuff.

Hi Steve

Have you had a look at

https://www.hdcctv.co.uk/products/hd-sdi-c...920b1.html

this will give you full 1080p output, this will do the same as the Swann DVR except its a digital system, therefor the images are going to be miles better, and my experience with CCTV is the better the image the more chance you have at getting an ID on the offender.

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Thanks Craigius, but I bought it in my way home from work tonight! Going to plug it all in and get it working over the weekend to make sure it works over a power line kit and I can get it on my iPhone/iPad before installing it. Otherwise it's going back!
In all, I've spent £430 for the DVR, 4 cameras and a power line kit and I'll get £80 cashback from Maplins as they are currently running a promotion so if it all works it'll stand me in £350. I said, if it all works!

buy with independent infared lamp for night vision.
trouble with the camera's with infared built in is spiders and flies are attracted to the infared and just cover the lens.
Have fun installing.
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Good point. My 2 cameras were covered too

Fairly confident there's more to it than just scanning a unique code to get it working externally, but I may be wrong. Routers need configuring to open ports etc, although this can be done automatically if you have unpnp enabled. Learned to drive in 2011.
Bought a Micra - great little car
"Upgraded" to Kia Sportage - hated it
Proper upgrade to FL2 TD4 GS 60 reg Facelift - tailgate paint issues, fuel gauge rewire, transfer box failure at 36k miles, clutch at 60k
Reconditioned diff at 70k ish
Sold at 84k and now on a DS. Terribly unreliable.
Sold DS for a 2021 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. Fingers crossed....
Sold Outlander for a 2014 SD4 SE Tech because I’m mental

Hi Steve

no problems if you have any issues with the system drop me a PM if I can help with anything, also I would spray the CCTV cameras with spider spray I use it on mine it stops the spiders building webs on the cameras, you will find that you need to apply it every six months, you can get it off e-bay.

I don't know with that system you have purchased, if you need to set a static I/P address for it internally on your network. MY 2012 HSE LUX
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