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OLOSTEVE



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At last a replacement for the Freelander 2

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jules



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Chunky !

What Toyota model is it ? Jules

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We're in the process of parting with our 6 year old Fiesta ST - its been totally reliable, economical and fun to drive. But my better half, who drives it the most - mainly short trips increasingly finds it awkward to get in and out of - long family history of arthritis.

So we have ordered a Renault 4.

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Keeping the FL2 for long trips and holidays. Jules

Post #451798 30th Sep 2025 4:37 pm
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MotionInc



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jules wrote:
Chunky !

What Toyota model is it ?

i'm guessing Yota is bringing the FJ Cruiser! I like it!

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OLOSTEVE



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Mini Land Cruiser FJ25 copy. Let's hope we can get it in the UK.

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jules wrote:
We're in the process of parting with our 6 year old Fiesta ST - its been totally reliable, economical and fun to drive. But my better half, who drives it the most - mainly short trips increasingly finds it awkward to get in and out of - long family history of arthritis.

So we have ordered a Renault 4.

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Keeping the FL2 for long trips and holidays.


After all the negatively, you're going electric. That makes me happy. Thumbs Up

If you can charge at home, there’s no cheaper way to get about if you charge on an EV tariff. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, the daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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jules



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Well exactly - we had solar panels and battery installed last year and have been delighted with the results. This "utilitarian" R4 is the sort of car that appeals to us and will almost exclusively be charged at home.

The Fiesta needed to go and I was offered a good price. I doubt the new EV will hold its value as well but thats how it goes sometimes.

Just means I can spend more time undertaking the sort of car maintenance that I enjoy, looking after the FL2. Jules

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OLOSTEVE wrote:
Mini Land Cruiser FJ25 copy. Let's hope we can get it in the UK.


"Mini" it looks huge Laughing Jules

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OLOSTEVE



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It's supposed to be around the same size as a Jimny.

Post #451917 9th Oct 2025 4:57 pm
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Nodge68



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jules wrote:
Well exactly - we had solar panels and battery installed last year and have been delighted with the results. This "utilitarian" R4 is the sort of car that appeals to us and will almost exclusively be charged at home.

The Fiesta needed to go and I was offered a good price. I doubt the new EV will hold its value as well but thats how it goes sometimes.

Just means I can spend more time undertaking the sort of car maintenance that I enjoy, looking after the FL2.


But if you're charging at home on an EV tariff, the slightly higher depreciation is offset by the much lower running costs.

Thumbs Up Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, the daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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If you have solar plus a battery can you actually use an EV Tariff? Surely the battery will supply until it drops to its minimum charge, then if you are still within the EV Tariff then it will then charge the battery.
Just asking as my daughter is considering a plug in hybrid. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

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I'd avoid a PHEV. The batteries are small, not thermally managed, and so have a very short life. Also electric range is poor, meaning the engine runs quite a lot, and once the engine is running the MPG is lower than an equivalent size petrol engine.

I looked at a PHEV, then did the maths, and came to the conclusion that it was the worst of both worlds, so we went from diesel to BEV. The BEV has worked out better than expected, so good we're looking to replace our last diesel with a BEV. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, the daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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For her in a very rural Scottish location the cost of a 3 phase supply would not be economic, though the PHEV range and over night charge would be adequate for her daily commute my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

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You wouldn’t need 3 phase , that’s overkill . 40 amps single phase breaker and domestic two core and earth would be adequate for a charger , no more difficult than having an electric shower fitted ., The only caveat is if your incomer is shared with another house rather than a direct line from the road . ( it’s very common in the U.K. for older properties , even detached ones to share ) . If that’s the case the network provider would need to give you a direct 80a minimum supply . We had that done to future proof for an EV when I had building work done . It was free of charge as government policy even though it’s a big job . In the end we bought a self charging hybrid , but the wiring is in place for the future . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

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2024 Renault Clio Alpine e-tech .

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