I was given a Jaguar I-Pace as a loan car for the day - I loved it - quiet, smooth, well appointed, and astonishlngly fast.

Unfortunately my wife was not so keen as it was harder to look out of and the ride was hard (my brother said I most likely had the air suspension set to sport. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 76k+ miles) (MY2015)

We got the EV bug after being a given a VW ID3 as a loan car for a fortnight while the wife's VW was in the body shop.
We were equally surprised as you, so we decided it was time to start to move away from fossil fuel vehicles. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Soon to be sold.
Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate on order.
Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE.

Mowog wrote:

Good luck with the new car.
Nice and quiet in the traffic jams full of emmets.

Just entered an Ioniq5 to a comparison site for insurance and it would double to over £800 compared to my Freelander. That along with range anxiety (daughter lives in Cornwall and we do 3 or more trips per annum) will stick with ICE for the forseeable. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

The Cotswolds to Cornwall is easily covered by a modern EV, which will have an almost 300 mile range. There's no need for range anxiety at all for that trip.
Last summer we did Cornwall to Gloucester in a 58kW ID 3 (260 miles range), which was completed on a single charge with over 50 miles of range left. It was charged up overnight at our hotal, then we did a trip to Wembley stadium, then back to Cornwall with a short 20 minute charge on route.

Getting about by EV isn't anything like as bad as the media claims, with the added bonus that they cost pennies per mile to run if charged on an EV tariff at home. The ID 3 averaged nearly 4 miles to a kWhr of electricity, which at the time was costing us 28 Pence, so it worked out at 7 Pence per mile, compared to 28 Pence per mile of diesel in the Freelander, or 18 Pence per mile of diesel in the wife's Audi.

We've just signed up to an EV cheap rate tariff, which is just 7.5 Pence per kWhr, so at 3 miles per kWhr (I'm expecting the Ionic to do about 3.2), the cost per mile drops massively, to under 3 Pence per mile.
This massively reduced running cost more than makes up for a potential increase in insurance, all of which have increased this year. I've just had a quote for over £700 for the Freelander, which is exactly double last years premium, so this year it's more than the Ionic insurance.

If you want low cost motoring, the it's actually pretty impossible to beat an EV, providing it's charged on a domestic tariff. Unfortunately public charging is more expensive, but it's the exception rather than the norm for 99% of our driving. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Soon to be sold.
Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate on order.
Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE.

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Thanks Nodge - so we stay at my daughters and charge via 13amp supply. How long would that take to fully charge the battery?? MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

I would say that there is 3 groups of people. 1 is the ones who love EV totally,lock stock and barrel. 2 those who are anti and are not sold on the idea at all. 3 don’t care what they drive as long as it doesn’t cost them more money or any more inconvenience then what they have at present. At the moment there is not a lot of choice of EV in the sub 5 grand bracket so that wipes out a lot of normal people in the market.

How much is an ionic?
You have to factor the cost of the car into the equation
How much a mile does it cost at 50 mpg on petrol.?
Not sure if the saving is as much as you make out.
For example how much does it cost to charge other than at home?( assuming you find a charger)
I am not convinced
I prefer to decide on the model of car and not have to buy something different just cos it’s electric.

I don’t sign up to the save the World ethic when China pollutes the way it does.

tenet wrote:

Thanks Nodge - so we stay at my daughters and charge via 13amp supply. How long would that take to fully charge the battery??

Just a driver wrote:

I would say that there is 3 groups of people. 1 is the ones who love EV totally,lock stock and barrel. 2 those who are anti and are not sold on the idea at all. 3 don’t care what they drive as long as it doesn’t cost them more money or any more inconvenience then what they have at present. At the moment there is not a lot of choice of EV in the sub 5 grand bracket so that wipes out a lot of normal people in the market.

I like to buy vehicles outright
I need to have an idea of the residual in say 5 years.
Finding it a bit hard to work this out with an EV.
What’s the Ionic going to be worth in 5 years?
For example the mini list price was 32,900
Paid 31,000
I know what it will be worth in 5 years
Of course I could just keep it for 10 years
But I can’t imagine buying an ev then worrying about the battery replacement.

Mowog wrote:

How much is an ionic?
You have to factor the cost of the car into the equation
How much a mile does it cost at 50 mpg on petrol.?
Not sure if the saving is as much as you make out.
For example how much does it cost to charge other than at home?( assuming you find a charger)
I am not convinced
I prefer to decide on the model of car and not have to buy something different just cos it’s electric.

I don’t sign up to the save the World ethic when China pollutes the way it does.

Mowog wrote:

I like to buy vehicles outright
I need to have an idea of the residual in say 5 years.
Finding it a bit hard to work this out with an EV.
What’s the Ionic going to be worth in 5 years?
For example the mini list price was 32,900
Paid 31,000
I know what it will be worth in 5 years
Of course I could just keep it for 10 years
But I can’t imagine buying an ev then worrying about the battery replacement.

From what I read, EVs charge quickest and most efficiently between 10% and 80% of their capacity.

So the best answer for tea/comfort break, realistic charging time, range once away from home is within these figures.

So what you should be looking at if buying to meet your travel needs is;

Initial range from 100% Home charging, say to 10% charge left,

Then, time to charge (and additional range) 10% to 80%.

Looking at it this way, a quick coffee (+?), once or twice on a long journey, now and again, isn't worth worrying about.

Its that final last 20% (constant voltage) charging that takes forever. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 76k+ miles) (MY2015)

Well I am defo. In the petrol camp until I see chargers as frequent as petrol stations.

My neighbour just returned from a cruise from Southampton
The hotel in the New Forest he booked on the way down forgot to tell him that the chargers don’t work.
The hotel chef arranged for an emergency lead to be plugged in around the back by the kitchen entrance.

NOT the experience he was hoping for.
Stress to start the holiday, the return journey was not much better, struggling to find a charger.

When I hear stories like this……………….