Our FL2 is costing very little.
Last 12 months I spent £1900 on it - that includes fuel, VED, Insurance, MOT, service (inc EGR & shock absorbers). Doesnt include depreciation.

The ULEZs dont affect me, so it makes no sense to change it at the moment.

But obviously it will have to go one day and hopefully by then there is something available that I would want.

As an aside, where is the best place to get a quote for having a EV charging point installed ?

I've had one quote for around £2500 but was through the Hyundai website. Jules

The Government Grants are there but very limited.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/electric-vehic...installers

Have you tried asking your Electricity Supplier about Grants and Tariffs.
https://www.edfenergy.com/electric-cars/government-grants

Also some Manufacturers help out when buying a new (or rarely - warranted approved vehicle)

Luckily I got mine when they provided 100% grants, although I paid a little extra for a 32amp untethered version. It is monitored over the internet, but I have never used it. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 76k+ miles) (MY2015)

jules wrote:

Our FL2 is costing very little.
Last 12 months I spent £1900 on it - that includes fuel, VED, Insurance, MOT, service (inc EGR & shock absorbers). Doesnt include depreciation.

The ULEZs dont affect me, so it makes no sense to change it at the moment.

But obviously it will have to go one day and hopefully by then there is something available that I would want.

As an aside, where is the best place to get a quote for having a EV charging point installed ?

I've had one quote for around £2500 but was through the Hyundai website.

I presume the charger needs wiring to the mains supply and not off the consumer board.

I have an old house with single phase power coming from over head cables to the back of the house with the meter in an external wall box. Its a 25m run from there, along the back of the house and through the garage, to the front of the house and driveway. Jules

I have an updated 100amp Electric Wallbox and a 40amp Breaker was added.
Your Suppler should be able to tell you if you have a sufficient Amperage Feed to House.

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Thanks Ian - very helpful Jules

If you can manage with a granny charger, then that's very cheap. We have an E moped, which charges in a few hours, although it's only got a 1.5kWhr battery.
A granny charger will put 35kWhr into an EV battery over a 12 hour charge, which would be enough for most people. Obviously if you have an EV night tariff which gives a few hours of very cheap electricity, then an 11kW supply will make the most of that, but you'd have to weigh up the cost of the installation compared to the savings on the electricity supply.
For us a granny charger would cover most of our uses, and costs nothing as I've got an outside socket right on the wall of the house by the car. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Soon to be sold.
Hyundai Ionic 5 Ultimate on order.
Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE.

granny charger ? Is that just plug into a standard 13amp socket ? Jules

Once more reliable sources are warning about the hidden worries about the price and risk of EV Batteries.

This is quoting Thatcham Research, the Motor Insurers Research Establishment, saying that the cost of EV insurance is rising faster than ICE Cars.

I fear that the 'Real' and 'Future' costs of the EV revolution are not being explained to us, and any necessary legislation changes not being given much thought.

However on the good side I hear that the EU7 rules are being made less severe, and also rules to provide an 'EV Certificate?' are being considered to provide a Battery Check and Record of Condition and Actual Usable Capacity. (although I wont be holding my breath on this latter consumer protection law happening)

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/electr...&ei=19

Sinclair has a lot to answer for



PS Although you could charge Sinclairs PEV (Pedal Electric Vehicle) with a 'Granny Charger' I would think that a modern EV needs a 32Amp Home Charger. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 76k+ miles) (MY2015)

jules wrote:

granny charger ? Is that just plug into a standard 13amp socket ?

IanMetro wrote:

I have an updated 100amp Electric Wallbox and a 40amp Breaker was added.
Your Suppler should be able to tell you if you have a sufficient Amperage Feed to House.

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The 40amp Breaker feeds a separate Residual Trip and an Emergency Circuit Breaker.
Which feeds my 'Untethered' 32amp Pod Point.

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MartynB
Are you sure that they need to dig up your new drive.
A few years back the gas supply pipe was replaced (age?) under my block pathing.
It was about a 25ft run from the kerb side to my garage (where the gas meter is) and they somehow only disturbed the pavement and about 1ft square next to garage. The rest appeared to be either tunnelled or through existing pipe/duct. I don't know how as I was out when they did it.

This guide covers what you have been already told but may help.

https://www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/i-alread...se-upgrade FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 76k+ miles) (MY2015)

I think that they use an intelligent mole as they call it, but you have to sign to say if they hit pipes etc that you’re responsible not them.

Not all that intelligent then  Jules

IanMetro wrote:

MartynB
Are you sure that they need to dig up your new drive.
A few years back the gas supply pipe was replaced (age?) under my block pathing.
It was about a 25ft run from the kerb side to my garage (where the gas meter is) and they somehow only disturbed the pavement and about 1ft square next to garage. The rest appeared to be either tunnelled or through existing pipe/duct. I don't know how as I was out when they did it.

This guide covers what you have been already told but may help.

https://www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/i-alread...se-upgrade