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jules



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I have a EV charger but don't own a EV yet. Confused

The Fiesta and FL2 are currently costing us so little it doesnt make sense to change them, at the moment.

A friend used our EV charger for the first time last week - to check that it actually worked, when he visited in his Tesla Model 3 - which he bought through his business with the tax incentives. Jules

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Just a driver



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If the money people have decided we’re having electric cars that is what they will tell the government of the day what is going to happen. The government will then first offer the people who have got money, subsidies, grants, tax breaks to buy said stuff. Then those who don’t want to or can’t afford to , they will use the big stick. That’s how all governments work. So looking like we will all have electric cars at some point, just a matter of when.

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Nodge68



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The oil companies don't want everyone driving EVs, as they'll loose billions in income.
The government will also have to find a way to replace those taxes that currently come from fuel sales.

It'll take 20 or 30 years for everyone to move over to EVs, so there's no rush for those that don't want an EV to get one. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
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Nodge68



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jules wrote:
I have a EV charger but don't own a EV yet. Confused

The Fiesta and FL2 are currently costing us so little it doesnt make sense to change them, at the moment.

A friend used our EV charger for the first time last week - to check that it actually worked, when he visited in his Tesla Model 3 - which he bought through his business with the tax incentives.


I would suggest that a Tesla is ideal for anyone who is unsure about EV ownership, or thinks it's difficult to make one work for them. Yes Tesla's are boring and rather bland, and the CEO has been making enemies everywhere, but as a tool to get about cheaply and easily, they just work. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
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1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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Aveling



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The EV bubble will have definitely burst in the next 20 or 30 years.
Manufacturers are abandoning them.

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Nodge68



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Aveling wrote:
The EV bubble will have definitely burst in the next 20 or 30 years.
Manufacturers are abandoning them.


Nonsense.

Show me 1 manufacture that has abandoned EVs.

EVs have been mandated as part of the carbon reduction mandates signed by many global governments, including the UK government.

Any manufacturers that abandon EVs will be cutting off future sales. The banning of new Fossil fuel cars will come in to effect on 01/01/2030 in the UK, which means any manufacturers not selling EVs will be reducing their market share. Even up to that date, manufacturers have to sell EVs unless they want to be hit with massive fines as part of the ZEV mandate, which they won't want.

Believe what you want, but you're going to be disappointed if you keep believing nonsense. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
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Nodge68



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Nodge68 wrote:

Yes there's probably better alternatives, and I personally don't believe HGVs are the right choice for an EV drive train, but for last mile deliveries they are perfect.
However Amazon plan on having 700 EV HGVs and over 10,000 EV vans on the road in the UK by the end of 2025, so if Amazon believe they are a worthwhile investment, then they are.

Looks like I was wrong.
This new EV trucker said he's never going back to diesel.

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There will be a government change before 2030, 5 years is an age in politics, and this government is very flip flop, I suspect there will be new fossil fuelled cars until 2040, and EV's may well have been superseded maybe not completely but an option. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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Just a driver



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Just watching YouTube, one of the caravan ones with an electric car. He had his account hacked and they are racking up thousands on his account and he can’t get hold of anyone to get it stopped. Had 3 cars charging at once at the same time in London and he is in Nottingham. You can not beat cash and a gallon of diesel, no hacking

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