And as long as your not forced to change the car because of where you live. Hopefully the Khan won't be around much longer and if the person I hope gets in, he has said he will scrap the ULEZ extension. Apologies for going off topic  2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

Same here Milo, fine for ULEZ at the moment but like you being in SE London will be caught next year under present rules
66 next June so hopefully retiring and able to find a way around the rules when that time comes

jules wrote:

@Nodge

2hrs blimey ! Thats good.

What did you need to remove and in what order ? - Ive got to do mine soon.

You don't need to remove much really, however you do need the locking tools.
The starter needs to be removed, so you can get to the locking hole.
The timing covers need removing, which is only a few 10mm head bolts, however the crank pulley needs removing before the lower cover can be removed. The crank pulley could be difficult to remove, as its bolt is torqued up tight, and it's also a patch bolt, so will have bonded to the crank threads. I'm lucky as I have a battery buzz gun for that sort of thing, so removing it wasn't an issue.
There's no need for the engine mounts to be removed, as the belt runs around the bottom of the mount bracket. All that needs to be removed is the guide roller, which is secured by an E Torx bolt. The tensioner is also removed, which is just a 13mm nut.

The water pump needs replacing, which isn't anything more complicated than undoing half a dozen 8mm head bolts.

It's then just a case of replacing all the components you've removed, re-routing the belt and following the tensioning process.

It really isn't that difficult or time consuming to do, especially for an equipped workshop, where the technician has done the job a few times.

I did do at as part of a more extensive engine repair, as I had to repair the damage done by a previous mechanic dropping a nut in to the intake, which smashed a piston and made a mess of the head.  2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Soon to be sold.
Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE.
Hyundai Ionic 5 Ultimate on order.

Steve D wrote:

Nodge68 wrote:

Why garages charge so much for this is beyond me.

Did mine 2 weekends ago. Cost under £100 for a Dayco kit, and took around 2 hours to fit.

This was after repairing the engine, so it needed doing as part of the repair, but I can't see why it's such an expensive job, as it's not difficult or time consuming.

You’re having a laugh! "Doing it as a part of another repair". Changing the pump, tensioners and belt with everything off, no problem. Doing the job on its own from start to finish is another matter.

Cheers Nodge -I find all that very encouraging. Jules

Came across this video which I thought was quite good and has some good info



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XdnjSk_ckA 2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

Milothedog wrote:

john doddy wrote:

morning all

just booked my 2012 sd4 in for a cam belt change £574.00 ; seems reasonable to me ; is that the going rate ? Landrover services in bristol

That's main stealer money. Is that using the LR kit with belt,water pump and tensioner?

Had mine done in July by a LR authorised repairer. £630 (water pump inc) and the A service. Not cheap, but like all LR work comes with a 2 year guarantee on parts and labour.

Id be keen to try a timing belt change myself, I'm a fairly competent DIY mechanic with a range of tools. Always dread getting it wrong, timing out and making a mess of my engine which tends to put me off and get a garage to do it.
What are everyone's experience of DIY changes? Should I do this myself? SD4 will be 7 next year so due on age. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Good link on doing It I posted above  2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

Sidthecat wrote:

Milothedog wrote:

john doddy wrote:

morning all

just booked my 2012 sd4 in for a cam belt change £574.00 ; seems reasonable to me ; is that the going rate ? Landrover services in bristol

That's main stealer money. Is that using the LR kit with belt,water pump and tensioner?

Had mine done in July by a LR authorised repairer. £630 (water pump inc) and the A service. Not cheap, but like all LR work comes with a 2 year guarantee on parts and labour.

Milo, you have pm

Bobupndown wrote:

Id be keen to try a timing belt change myself, I'm a fairly competent DIY mechanic with a range of tools. Always dread getting it wrong, timing out and making a mess of my engine which tends to put me off and get a garage to do it.
What are everyone's experience of DIY changes? Should I do this myself? SD4 will be 7 next year so due on age.

Good tip jules, I'll maybe buy the locking pins and give it a go next year.  Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

I've got a set of locking pin/flywheel tools that anyone can borrow (for the price of the postage) if they want?

I did the cambelt/waterpump change myself earlier this year (March) after much research, YouTube & looking on here etc. After a bit of trepidation I took the plunge, I was quite surprised how straightforward the whole job is & pleasantly satisfied that the job was done correctly plus saving myself about £500.

If anyone is interested in the genuine offer to borrow the tools please PM me to arrange.



Cheers
Brian

Bobupndown wrote:

Good tip jules, I'll maybe buy the locking pins and give it a go next year.

I just got two Quotes today for my Landrover SD4 2013, using Landrover parts quotes came in at £660 to £730 and they not main dealer!!!!