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| andycwb Member Since: 08 Oct 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 108   
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Get the fattest cable you can find. For the few seconds the starter motor is running the current will be well over the cable rating. 240A seems to be about what's fitted. 2011 MY SD4 HSE + planning some interesting stuff
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8th Nov 2013 7:12 pm |
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| ccsnet Member Since: 05 Jan 2013 Location: Lancs Posts: 881 
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A great find.... T Terran 
'The' Car For The Modern Day UK Roads ( ie all the pot holes ) 'A Freelander that leaks oil is just marking its territory' - Wise words Now a member of the FL2 'Silly Bill' Club |
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8th Nov 2013 7:35 pm |
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| taztastic Member Since: 03 Feb 2011 Location: North West Posts: 8652 
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Threads merged |
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8th Nov 2013 7:48 pm |
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| andycwb Member Since: 08 Oct 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 108
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Just checked mine. MY11 and a single earth to the body near the battery.
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8th Nov 2013 8:09 pm |
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| Stevie5tapes Member Since: 10 Jun 2012 Location: Brighouse, YORKSHIRE Posts: 1370 
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How easy is it to remove the air filter box to get to the starter motor? Not really had time to search on hear yet |
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8th Nov 2013 9:07 pm |
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Is it an easy job?| Dave DND Member Since: 12 Oct 2013 Location: Paignton Posts: 47 
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For the attention of the Moderators: Re merged threads. Like many others who have come to this forum, the reason was that I had a few issues with my Freelander and I have been searching endlessly through posts trying to find a resolve. I eventually touched across the thread I have been merged with, but had initially dismissed it as the title did nothing for me as like other thread using the search facility. I was using the keywords of my fault syptoms, such as HDC FAULT and SLOW STARTING to locate something usefull. Had I known what the fault fix was, then would I actually be "searching" for an EARTH THREAD fault? Probably not. I was indeed inspired by the thread I have been merged with to look into adding a supplementary cable, but again, unsure whether it related to my faults as the original post seemed a little vague to me in places and lacked some definition with regards to the sypmtoms being experienced. With no disrespect intended to the original post or author, I decided to give something back to the forum, and to write something in my own words, using some thread title terminology and keywords that would show up a little better in the search and browse manipulation on here, that may aid others frantically pulling their hair out with slow starting and HDC faults - and I thought I would add an alternative and a little more in depth description of both some of the symptoms, reasoning and resolve of this. My opening line did indeed state "I`m fairly sure that this will have been covered already, but its such a good fix that its worth mentioning again" and now it has been relegated to the depths of an unhelpfully worded thread title that may not actually assist others, who are still searching BY SYMPTOMS for a fix and not searching by RESOLVE. Could I respectfully ask that this thread is now unmerged, and split back into its original context in which it was intended so that others may find it quickly and avoid any unwanted and costly main dealership intervention. Last edited by Dave DND on 9th Nov 2013 11:21 am. Edited 2 times in total |
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9th Nov 2013 9:57 am |
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| taztastic Member Since: 03 Feb 2011 Location: North West Posts: 8652
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Thank you Dave DND for your valued input, I will leave the threads merged as they all appear to relate to the same issues, it is of much greater benefit to other members if the information is in one place.
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9th Nov 2013 10:48 am |
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| Dave DND Member Since: 12 Oct 2013 Location: Paignton Posts: 47
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You can get away without removing it, but its actually quicker to do than typing this reply. Unplug the electrical connector on the top and move cable away from air box (may be a retainer that needs releasing), unclip the big clamp on the convoluted pipe with a pair of pliers and slide to one side if you can, grab air box and lift upwards. Its only held in place by a few poppers, and when refitting, there is a small pipe on a slide bracket near the front that needs to be lined up again. If this takes you more than two minutes, you are really doing something wrong |
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9th Nov 2013 11:09 am |
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| Stevie5tapes Member Since: 10 Jun 2012 Location: Brighouse, YORKSHIRE Posts: 1370
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Cheers Dave, before I read your post I had a quick look this morning, I thought maybe (I haven't done this before so only a thought!) that just removing the engine cover might give sufficient room to get to the starter motor? One last question, as again I've not done this before but why does the earth strap need to be so long? When I looked in the engine compartment this morning it looked to me that a shorter strap would do? Does the route of the earth strap add extra length to the strap? Black MY2013 SD4 GS Auto, Wood Company Armrest, Freel2 sticker.
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9th Nov 2013 12:03 pm |
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| oldgeezer Member Since: 09 Apr 2011 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 1302
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When I fitted mine I only removed the battery cover and it took about 10 mins, routed under the battery tray and down to starter bolt. |
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9th Nov 2013 5:18 pm |
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| alex_pescaru Member Since: 12 Mar 2009 Location: RO Posts: 4640 |
The ones with autoboxes have a much more accessible point for clamping the extra earth lead.
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9th Nov 2013 5:47 pm |
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| Dave DND Member Since: 12 Oct 2013 Location: Paignton Posts: 47
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You can of course connect it to the gearbox as shown, but . . .
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9th Nov 2013 5:56 pm |
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| alex_pescaru Member Since: 12 Mar 2009 Location: RO Posts: 4640 |
The box is fixed to the engine through some serious bolts. Through there the current flows... And more of that, I don't believe there is a gasket between engine and box... And by the way, did you saw where the original chassis to engine earth strap is connected?... |
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9th Nov 2013 6:03 pm |
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| Dave DND Member Since: 12 Oct 2013 Location: Paignton Posts: 47
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I hear what you are saying, but if you work on the very basic theory that every joint is a potential for some voltage loss, albeit minimal, and you have a bolt within reach that is actually connected to the item you are trying to earth out, why not simply use the starter bolt ?
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9th Nov 2013 6:12 pm |
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