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ad15



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power steering,,

is it possible to adjust the power steering ?

swmbo's FL seems to be on lightest setting even at speed,,,

Post #78443 15th Oct 2010 11:03 am
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npinks



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Post #78445 15th Oct 2010 11:09 am
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Big Dave



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Nah can't be adjusted as far as I know either. Although as a car with no sporting pretentions it's not meant to be heavy! Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
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Post #78447 15th Oct 2010 11:29 am
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xtattsbox



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The ratio does change on the different Terrain Response modes. Hi Darling, I'll be home in 10 mins. If I'm not back, please read this message again...

Post #78453 15th Oct 2010 1:42 pm
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Chris B



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This is probably the biggest criticism of FL2. Perhaps the concept was that stronger people drive other LR models and FL2 needed to be a bit "softer".
No way to adjust it as far as I know, I'm not even sure that the PAS rate changes with TR setting (that's a new one on me) Gone... 2013 XS TD4 Manual Firenze Red
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Post #78468 15th Oct 2010 3:55 pm
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ad15



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there has been a hi speed and lo speed on EVERY car i've owned with power steering,, Confused

i cannot believe the FL has got super light steering all the time,,,

I'll check with LR,, and get back,,

Post #78470 15th Oct 2010 4:01 pm
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xtattsbox



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Chris B wrote:
This is probably the biggest criticism of FL2. Perhaps the concept was that stronger people drive other LR models and FL2 needed to be a bit "softer".
No way to adjust it as far as I know, I'm not even sure that the PAS rate changes with TR setting (that's a new one on me)


When I was on the offroad driving thing the instructor told me that the ratio changes on the TR settings to give more control. The steering wheel centers automatically if you take your hands off the wheel and roll forward. He said something about it going on full lock if you let go in reverse. Hi Darling, I'll be home in 10 mins. If I'm not back, please read this message again...

Post #78471 15th Oct 2010 4:05 pm
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mcphersonstrut



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All cars will self centre to varied levels when driven forwards it's due to the caster angle - not sure about backwards though Shocked but it would make sense Thumbs Up

Post #78472 15th Oct 2010 4:19 pm
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alex_pescaru



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The FL2 has a plain & simple mechanical power steering system.
So there is no control over the output pressure of the power steering pump. At least not through the electronics.
The pressure is internally regulated in that way that at any engine speed, the output pressure is remaining constant for a specific demand/situation.
You can mechanically make an improvisation to restrict the fluid flow inside the pump by limiting its regulation valve and make the steering harder.
But as said: don't try it at home... Laughing Laughing Laughing

Post #78474 15th Oct 2010 4:48 pm
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ad15



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i tried the grass gravel snow setting on the drive home,, and the steering does get heavier for GGS.. so it MUST be adjustable somehow..

Post #78705 18th Oct 2010 11:48 pm
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alex_pescaru



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I may be wrong but the document below says otherwise...
FL2 power steering

Post #78719 19th Oct 2010 10:08 am
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Andy131



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Bow down Ok Alex your right

Going out with a spring balance tied to the steering wheel prooves it Embarassed

But I'm still convinced it feels as if the weighting of the steering changes when Snow setting is enabled.
From the document it is obvious it doesn't, but I am sure I'm not the only one who "feels" as if it does, possibly because the throttle response is more sluggish (and therefore all the car feels sluggish?) or because more power is being directed to the rear wheels and this changes the way the car chassis reacts to steering? Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Post #78725 19th Oct 2010 1:13 pm
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alex_pescaru



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Could be, like you've said, because of the traction distribution which goes to the rear too and isn't only on front anymore.

Post #78738 19th Oct 2010 3:25 pm
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heliosuk



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The ratio cannot change as is a fixed rack and pinion. The steering effort can and will depend on the pressure in the rack due to engine speed and pump bypass valve settings along with the obvious tyre pressure, tyre size, geometry settings and power delivery through the drive shafts.

Using a spring balance to measure the effort will not prove anything other than the wheel effort in the mode set at the time and when the vehicle is stationary.

One needs to fully understand how all the systems interact with each other and it's only really possible to say the steering seems light or heavy if you have a comparable vehicle at the time, unless of course, there is measured data available.

It's an interesting one this but I think if you get a full indepth understanding of what goes on it might put your mind at rest that there is possibly nothing wrong????

Post #78771 19th Oct 2010 10:57 pm
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Andy131



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The question is not is anything wrong, just does the power steering require more effort in different modes.
Hence me sitting in the car with a spring balance tied to the steering wheel while switching between modes.
Good news is the tyre pressures were constant, everything else was the same as it was all on one vehicle, but the speed of turning would not nessesarily have been the same.
Even I am not daft enough to repeat the test while driving, which would prove the point - any offers? Anyone? Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Post #78773 19th Oct 2010 11:41 pm
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