Thanks Scarecrow,

I will see how FL goes…..will post accordingly…..

From my experience I think if anyone has a similar problem it’s best to just have a good look at this T/C hose………best to remove it to have a good look…comes off easily…it’s the hose connected to the throttle valve……..goes to plastic pipe to intercooler……the hose on my FL had gone ‘soggy’….new one very tough.
The electronic control seems to be that sensitive that it can detect the slightest leak on turbo pressure- side………..the split on the hose was tiny……….very difficult to see……
I was thinking…….in the old days we had things like a turbo- boost gauge……& a voltmeter on the dash…
so much easier to see something amiss……..having said that a decent code reader is a Godsend.

Hi everyone interested,

Update from last post 5 weeks ago….from S. France….

We returned to Oxfordshire leaving 24deg temperatures a week ago……car ran ok…..fully loaded as normal.
Occasional stutter but nothing to worry about………certainly not like before replacing sensors & T/C hose.
Once north of Paris no stutter at all…..temperature 17ish…….then to Calais & return to Blighty…..to Oxfordshire………860 mls without problem…….no hesitation, stutter at all……..
Now temperature around 10deg……….car runs great…..I’ve tried to coax it to stutter….(light throttle take-up at 50-60 mph …1500 rpm ) but it won’t……..
Seems bizzare : no posts on subject for 5 weeks….is it due to the return to cooler temps….. ?
If so…..what is the problem……? As I have mentioned many times…..can’t understand why a temp rise to above 20deg C can cause a problem………….
Otherwise car ok…….needed 2 new front tyres for MOT…14/11…..Pirelli Scorpion Verde had scuffed on outside edge (front) on way back…………alignment only slightly out ……otherwise no faults.
Will keep car…..& wait & see….it’s a nice car & as we have written on recent posts ‘what to replace it with “

HI Pete Found your posts so will give them a good read later this evening.

i found my frl2 stuttering during acceleration and cut out a few times with reduced performand but was down to cranckshaft sensor circuit a this veideo helped
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bosh crankshaft sensor working very well as shortage of landrover parts 3 month wait with loyd landrover

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Double video from Beavis Pitts ? I recognized the car from the videos…… FL2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto MY 2012— current
D2 TD5 HSE Man MY 1999 470kmls….gone 2014 ….lovely engine..chassis rotten
D1 300TDI Man MY 1996 56kmls….gone 1999…D2 much better
Wife’s FL1 1.8P MY 2001 32kmls …gone 2007…has Mini since.

Arctic wrote:

HI Pete Found your posts so will give them a good read later this evening.

Good afternoon everybody. My name's Barry, and I'm new to this forum.
I was driven to join because I see I'm far from alone in suffering from throttle response problems with my Metropolis.
The car has done 95k miles and has been fine (apart from the normal door locking issues) until about a year ago when my wife reported a lack of response when pulling away from a standstill, after having been stuck in a traffic queue. This didn't recur, so I put it down to a momentary glitch.
However, the problem has now become increasingly persistent as the weather has warmed-up and is now a regular, if still intermittent feature.
As reported by others, no fault codes have been recorded, and apart from the hesitation, the car performs normally - no black smoke, normal fuel consumption, no unusual noises.
Near breaking-point came recently when my go-to diagnostics expert and I were sitting in the car with his Autel screen on his knee in the passenger's seat. We were stationary, with my foot flat to the floor and going nowhere, while the Autel told us nothing was wrong! I had to disagree!
I've tried various re-sets to the TPS, and because the coolant temperature was showing a slightly low reading at 78°, we swapped the thermostat. Also the software has been updated.
Because when the car is on the move, the problem subsides, I decided to see what happens when leaving the bonnet open to allow the heat to escape, and it does improve. There's a heat-soak problem somewhere, but the effect is so profound I don't understand why no fault code is registered.
Even though I think I know the answer, I have to ask if anyone has come close to a plausible solution?
Many thanks.

Hi Barry,

As you can see from my previous posts above I have had a similar problem……
Is the car auto…..SD4….? A few contributors have had a similar problem to you….no response on pulling away…….nearly always with autobox……
It seems strange that no fault codes have been flagged…….
Thé most strange thing, as you wrote is that you were in the car with the Autel connected & you floored the throttle with no response or DTC……!
I have never experienced this fault…..but it suggests throttle pedal assy problem…….or crankshaft position sensor …..or auto g/box problem…..from previous posts on this forum…….although I haven’t had a problem with thèse items myself.
It’s a bit difficult without any fault codes being logged……..would be interesting to do a live-data road test.
What do you think is the problem….?
As I have written lots of times…..they are strange motors……!
Best of luck…Pete FL2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto MY 2012— current
D2 TD5 HSE Man MY 1999 470kmls….gone 2014 ….lovely engine..chassis rotten
D1 300TDI Man MY 1996 56kmls….gone 1999…D2 much better
Wife’s FL1 1.8P MY 2001 32kmls …gone 2007…has Mini since.

Hi OxonPete,
Thanks for your prompt response. The car is an SD4 automatic, and as I said, apart from the hesitation, which probably lasts for two or three seconds whilst the car gathers a bit of speed through torque converter drag, there are no other issues.
Two experts have looked at it, but so far with no clear ideas, and I could easily throw my wallet at it, changing this and that with no result.
I'm guessing a heat issue is causing the breakdown of an ageing component, we just have to locate it.
We'll keep trying, and when successful will broadcast the reason.
Thanks again.

Ok Barry,

You have the right idea with this……if the car is not immobilized you are better to try & see how it goes without throwing your wallet at it. I have done the same with our vehicles…..service them correctly but if a fault occurs try & have a reasonable diagnosis of the problem, before changing parts ‘on the off chance’.
Thé fault as you described seems to be autobox related…..perhaps internal valveblock…….but not certain.
It was strange with our FL2…..5 years plus of hesitation/stuttering in summer only……I read lots on this forum & others about this…..nothing definite so I tolerated it until it got worse last year……ended up replacing split turbo hose ( very common fault) & à sensor. Thé Autel AP200 was great for diagnosing this.
Ok until this spring & thé stuttering returned ….not too bad……but on replacing the battery…..it has been perfect since……..! Despite 36+ degrees temperatures………Bizzare or what…..
Let us know how you get on……
Regards, Pete FL2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto MY 2012— current
D2 TD5 HSE Man MY 1999 470kmls….gone 2014 ….lovely engine..chassis rotten
D1 300TDI Man MY 1996 56kmls….gone 1999…D2 much better
Wife’s FL1 1.8P MY 2001 32kmls …gone 2007…has Mini since.

AnthonyB wrote:

Good afternoon everybody. My name's Barry, and I'm new to this forum.
I was driven to join because I see I'm far from alone in suffering from throttle response problems with my Metropolis.
The car has done 95k miles and has been fine (apart from the normal door locking issues) until about a year ago when my wife reported a lack of response when pulling away from a standstill, after having been stuck in a traffic queue. This didn't recur, so I put it down to a momentary glitch.
However, the problem has now become increasingly persistent as the weather has warmed-up and is now a regular, if still intermittent feature.
As reported by others, no fault codes have been recorded, and apart from the hesitation, the car performs normally - no black smoke, normal fuel consumption, no unusual noises.
Near breaking-point came recently when my go-to diagnostics expert and I were sitting in the car with his Autel screen on his knee in the passenger's seat. We were stationary, with my foot flat to the floor and going nowhere, while the Autel told us nothing was wrong! I had to disagree!
I've tried various re-sets to the TPS, and because the coolant temperature was showing a slightly low reading at 78°, we swapped the thermostat. Also the software has been updated.
Because when the car is on the move, the problem subsides, I decided to see what happens when leaving the bonnet open to allow the heat to escape, and it does improve. There's a heat-soak problem somewhere, but the effect is so profound I don't understand why no fault code is registered.
Even though I think I know the answer, I have to ask if anyone has come close to a plausible solution?
Many thanks.

Thanks Pete and Ian,
I'm being nudged towards a fuel filter issue. A Napa NFF2132 was fitted at the last service in December, and although this is seemingly an acceptable alternative for the OEM LR001313 there might be subtle differences which can be affected by thermal conditions, and the SD4 engine seems to be a bit sensitive in this regard.
It's not a huge expense, so it's worth a try.

Hello again Barry,

Lots of posts on this forum about fuel filters for FL2…….I have posted quite a bit about them. I had never heard of Nappa brand but a previous contributor had one fitted & had problems. I & others suggested he either fitted the genuine LandRover item (which I always do) or the identical Purflux filter. Thé LR filter has Purflux moulded into the casing……it’s identical but a bit cheaper. Have a look on autodoc.co.uk….they sell lots of different brands…all different prices….
I know from previous posts that the ‘ cheapie’ filters can cause a problem, the internal fuel return is different. Lots of posts on here about this……if you can find them. I would change that Nappa filter asap.
………..
Pete FL2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto MY 2012— current
D2 TD5 HSE Man MY 1999 470kmls….gone 2014 ….lovely engine..chassis rotten
D1 300TDI Man MY 1996 56kmls….gone 1999…D2 much better
Wife’s FL1 1.8P MY 2001 32kmls …gone 2007…has Mini since.

Hello Pete,
That's really useful information - thank you! I was advised some time ago that the fuel filter is a likely culprit, but having subsequently been told the Napa version was a good alternative, I ignored the suggestion.
It was only when I heard that the SD4 engine is particularly susceptible to the choice of filter I decided I should look into again.
We have to go to North Yorkshire tomorrow, so I'm not looking forward to possible queues at the Dartford Crossing. We'll have to stick to the nearside lane!
Thanks again - a new LR filter is about to be ordered, ready for when we return.
Barry