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NeilTD4



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England 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Lago Grey

Brilliant write up Arctic and the pictures you've taken the time to take and add make this better than any workshop guide I've ever seen.

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Arctic



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey
Bell housing removal

HNY to all ok so adding more to the thread to share the info and maybe give a god read.

Carrying on from above removing the bell housing, undo the bolts around the housing.
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With all the bolts removed i used a wood drift to open the housing as it was stuck, only a light tap mind.
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That opened a little gap for me.
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I was then able to get a wide 25mm /1inc wood chisel into the gap and lever the housing away from the diff.
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This was still not enough it was holding hard, so the big guns had to be used, a long lever bar.
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That did the job and the housing was free from the diff.
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In this photo you can see the filler plug in the diff.
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The housing plate looked fairly clean just a little brown old oil residue.
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This i cleaned up using some old rags and some brake cleaner.
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Looking inside the bell hosing the large cog seemed ok no damage, from the drilling or any other damage
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I pulled out the large gear cog, you could see the swarf from drilling the drain plug.
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Inside the housing there was also swarf.
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Now my thinking is this is there because the drain plug was drilled with the diff out of the car on a bench, it had no oil in it to help the swarf drain out, which if on a car it should do.

The diff housing inside was cleaned out with brake cleaner and wiped dry, this then shows you the drilled and tapped drain hole from inside.
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I think this is the bolt hole which some have used to use has a drain hole? ok if your diff does not have the allocation area for a proper drain hole which i think my07 Fl does not have.
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The drilled and tapped drain hole from the outside of the diff.
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New drain plug fitted, out side view.
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Inside view of the drain plug.
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I tried all the three drain plugs only the middle one fits perfectly, the other two got thread bound.
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I next cleaned up the large gear cog, again washing it off with brake cleaner.
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Close up of some of the numbers on the gear cog.
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All the teeth and rollers look to be in good condition.
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There is some stamping on the large cog anyone know what it means please.
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Feeling the rollers they seem ok, but should there be any play in the cage?
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Number on the roller cage.
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Also SKF stamped, so would these still be the originals.
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Another number on the roller.
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The drive shaft cog looks ok too no damage to any of the teeth.
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I marked the cog and turned round to the starting mark.
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Dropped the large cog wheel back into the diff and replaced the bell housing cover plate.
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The drain plug looks a little large for my liking 22mm very robust but looks out of place.
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So ordered a few other types which came on the 16/12/23
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Tried the above one, seems ok.
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So does the Allen key one.
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Another lot came on the 19/12/23.
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They fitted ok and perfect too.
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They where all tested over a few days with oil in the diff all passed the test on the bench.

Which one i will use on the day i drill and tap the diff on the My14 Ork Freelander i will pick on the day.

PS the Ork diff was drilled and tapped on 8/1/24 write up and photos to follow.

Spoiler.
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Post #438302 9th Jan 2024 1:45 am
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Arctic



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey
Rear Diff Drain Hole

A couple days ago Monday 8/1/24 i decided after my above trial run on drilling and tapping the spare Freelander 2 diff i had i would tackle the diff on my current My2014 SD4.

So the FL was raised onto the four ramps which i always use when any work need doing under the car.
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Requirements:

12mm drill bit

M14 x 1.5 tap

M14 drain plug with new copper washer.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295491948330?var=593586503778

Once the car was up and on the ramps i could set about cleaning, drilling and tapping the point on my diff, which has a area which is ideal for the drain plug.
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First the flatted area was cleaned and polished with a small sanding flap in a drill.
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Once i was satisfied it was flat and polished enough it was then ready for drilling out.
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Now the process of drilling out i did not take a photo of has i had to use both hands on the drill to make sure it was straight and square, the recess/hole already in the diff helps this, i used a good make Bosch 12mm metal drill bit, the duff being alloy drills very easy, so you must take care and control the drill steady.

Drilling slowly a little at each time.
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Until the drill bit went into the diff void, which you could feel right away by going slow, the oil stated to flow.
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Note the oil is a decent colour because it was only sucked out and change in November 11 2023.
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Below was a catch pan for the oil.
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As the oil drained quickly you could see it was in fact darker in content than when flowing out of the diff, this was most likely mixed with the little i could not get out by pump in November.
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The last dribbles of the old oil.
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By 13.45pm the oil had virtually stopped running out, but i jacked the near side rear up to make sure the oil was completely drained out.
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The rear diff should hole 0.7ltrs
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Bits of swarf was left in the catch tin, from drilling out the diff, which the old oil removed has it flowed.
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Also some swarf was left in the strainer i used when pouring the oil out of the can into the jug.
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I next prepared the new oil for the diff in my pump dispenser, 1ltr = 1000ml, this was left next to my radiator in my shed, which is run by diesel fuel burning heater from a Rover 75, so it would pump easy when needed.
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Now it was time to check the drilled hole for any more swarf and clean the hole out with a few sprays of brake cleaner, even though when looking it looked to be very clean.
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Right so with my trusty tap tool, which i made sure was square to the flat, i started to tap the drilled hole, 14ml drill bit.
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This was done slowly and precisely bit by bit.
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If you look close the remaining dregs of oil are bring out the alloy being tapped.
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The new drain hole was now tapped out.
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I then spayed some more brake cleaner into the hole just for good measure, and waited for that to drain out.

In the mean time i picked my choice of drain plug i was going to use.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295491948330?var=593586503778

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This was offered up to the new diff draining point, it screwed in by hand nicely.
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It was now time to add the new oil
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The oil pump dispenser was placed below and hooked into the the filler hole.
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The pumping of the oil then commenced until the reading in the pump read 300ml which means 700ml into the diff.
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Which the oil by then was leaking from the filler hole of the diff.
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This was allowed to stop and then the filler plug was replaced.
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The magnets i use on the plugs of diff plug were replaced.
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The Ork was then left over night on the ramps for me to check the next day for any leaking from the new drilled and tapped drain hole.
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New drain plug checked the next day, all seems ok.
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Freelander was taken of the ramps, given a good ride out, oil drain plug checked when back home pleased to say that is another job done and easier to do in 12/24months time, most likely 12months knowing how i like to change my oils, i change the engine oil twice a year what ever mileage as been covered, spring and autumn.

Onto the next job.

Post #438319 10th Jan 2024 12:14 pm
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

You should get a job at the your nearest JLR dealership; they have loads of broken down vehicles that need fixing. Laughing Jules

Post #438325 10th Jan 2024 2:39 pm
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Dean1234



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e XS Manual Biscay Blue

Hi Artic. I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to take pictures and write these guides. Bow down I don't suppose you're taking bookings to work on other people's cars? Laughing https://www.youtube.com/@scottandalana4x4

Post #438333 11th Jan 2024 7:58 am
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Arctic



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey

Quote:
jules wrote:
You should get a job at the your nearest JLR dealership; they have loads of broken down vehicles that need fixing. Laughing


Hi Artic. I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to take pictures and write these guides. Bow down I don't suppose you're taking bookings to work on other people's cars? Laughin
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Hi Jules & Dean.
If i was a bit younger maybe, only undertake work on my own cars, we do have local meets where a few enthusiastic owners get together and help each other with straight forward jobs and have a good old chin wag etc, Rover 75 MGZT FL1 and FL2 owners welcome.

https://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/

Post #438343 11th Jan 2024 10:57 am
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

I saw the Rover 75 at its debut at the 1998 BHam Motor Show - thought it a lovely classic "British" car.

A friend had a MGZT estate for a few years before getting into SUVs.

I would have liked the V8. Jules

Post #438357 11th Jan 2024 8:04 pm
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j00ppis



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Finland 

Hello, im changing atm my rear diff.

i took off haldex from old diff and changed filter, Gen3. i didn't manage to remove haldex pump because it didn't want to come off whit out dismantling driveshaft coupling so i skipped that part. Took the filter off, and was full of dirt.

when i was installing back filter, it was very tight then i needed to tap whit hammer from each corner and to get it fit correctly while tightening screws.

i did mark driveshaft coupling but i didn't mark anything on haldex, is there somekind of risk when installing haldex back to rear diff? do it need to be aligned? I will answear to my self.

I got it sorted no problem on haldex alligment.

And what comes to gen3 haldex pump, if I want remove it. Do I need to take off driveshaft coupling? which i just googled, its " input shaft flange " If so is it just spin it around whit airgun "

Got sorted it to, it needs to remove if you want gen3 pump away

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The diff which I'm installing had haldex 4 and was easy to remove pump


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Post #439650 26th Feb 2024 4:47 pm
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Redfox



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Denmark 2007 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Izmir Blue

After reading this long thread, was it ever so that Ravenol for Haldex was not good, or was it because other problems were solved, and turned out to be the solution?
I will not order any Haldex oil, before I read a reply, just to be sure.

Kind regards,
Redfox.

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Arctic



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey
Engine oil My 2007

Well yesterdays dry day was taken advantage of by doing a quick engine oil and filter change from today and over the weekend the rear diff, PTU, and the Haldex, gearbox oils will be changed.

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Exhaust will be rubbed down also, and painted up.
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Awkward oil filter so used the tool i made to do the job:D
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New O-ring fitted and a little new oil on the O-ring before re-fitting the oil pot and filter.

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New copper washer for the oil drain plug.
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Make sure oil filter is fitte3d correctly then add new oil.
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Move onto the oil changes above today and this weekend.

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Bobupndown



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Quote:
this was left next to my radiator in my shed, which is run by diesel fuel burning heater from a Rover 75


That sounds like an interesting set up. Any pictures or details of how you did that? Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
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Post #440838 13th Apr 2024 9:47 am
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Redfox wrote:
After reading this long thread, was it ever so that Ravenol for Haldex was not good, or was it because other problems were solved, and turned out to be the solution?
I will not order any Haldex oil, before I read a reply, just to be sure.

Kind regards,
Redfox.


Any oil that meets the specifications for the haldex unit should be fine. Jules

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Arctic



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey
Diff oil MY07

Sunday i only managed to do the rear diff oil, today has been a wash out again, hopfully tomorrow will let me do a little more.

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Last done in 2020.
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Really need to add drain hole in the MY07 diff but where? this is not ideal.
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Anyone done a drain hole on the MY07 diff.

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Arctic



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey

The PTU oil is due to be changed again soon because the first change which i did in November 2023 was to me a flushing change, also my intention is this time round i will drill and tap a drain hole plug.



I have gathered the drill bits, taps, and drain plugs i intend to use, yesterday i did a dry run on an alloy mount which was surplus to my requirements.



I purchased two different sizes and types of drain plugs.



M10 x 1.0 and M12 x 1.5 Allen key type

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255571702589?var=555518513596



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255571710030?var=555518606563



Also the same in six sided hexagon bolts.



M10 x 1.0 and M12 1.5

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295491948330?var=593586503776



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295491948330?var=593586503777



Along with the plugs also purchased and tap & die set.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134268411250



I already had a few taps and handles but thought be good to get a set.

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Used this chart to size the drills needed for the taps.

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With the alloy mount in the vice i punched a mark for drill on it.

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Drilling was done in differing sizes, first drill i used was a 4mm HSS

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Next was 5.5mm drill.

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Then a 6.5mm finally a 8.5mm.

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This was to use the M10 x 1.0 plug

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So started the tapping.

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Turning the tap slowly back and forth until the hole was threaded.

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Then it was time to try both drain plugs.

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First was the Hexagon plug with copper washer, fitted great.

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Then the Allen key plug with it's Rimlex Sealing.

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Both types fitted great, so test of the M10 x 1.0 over.

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The same process for the M12 x 1.5 mark & punch.

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This time the 6.5mm drill was used from the off.

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​Then the 8.5mm drill.

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Finally the 10mm drill.

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The hole was ready to tap, 12 x 1.5

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Again slowly back and forth until the thread was completed.

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With the thread now done it was time to try the plugs.

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First the Hexagon plug.

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Fitted great once again, now the Allen type plug.

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Photo shows both the M12 x 1.5 on the left and the M10 x 1.0 on the right.

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The same for the Hexagon plugs.

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Hopefully the drilling of the PTU and tapping will go smoothly waiting on a nice warm day now.

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