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NoDo$h



Member Since: 27 May 2008
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England 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

Anyone know what the correct oil pressure should be? Live readings are great, but only if you know what the expected range of values is. Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

Post #424273 16th Aug 2022 9:23 am
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Badger51



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Australia 

This from the Haynes manual!

 (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
171037Km as of 09/05/22
Superchips Bluefin Flash
Nanocom Evo II (also sold)

Post #424276 16th Aug 2022 9:37 am
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bernie7sk



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Slovakia 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Rimini Red

I read here on the forum that oil filters from brands that are not manufacturers but only sellers (Febi, Meyle, etc.) caused problems with the valve that was supposed to open the drain to the tub when the filter was changed. in the first freel2, the oil pressure light is electronically controlled and does not light up during a short period of low pressure and not at all at low pressure. and as I read correctly, freel2 after the facelift is worse and does not check the oil pressure at all, but only estimates using temperature calculations, etc.
so I'll think about whether those dry heads did fall victim to such filters. the freelander would probably really need an oil pressure gauge. I will probably buy and install an electric pressure gauge. with a car with 324,000 km, I won't go crazy if there is some non-original alarm clock on the dashboard.

Post #424294 16th Aug 2022 2:34 pm
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Lucx



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Italy 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

interesting bernie you have the link of the discussion, to understand how it was verified, it is nice to read this interest and participation. do you have the version without dpf? The strange thing that I could not find anything about this, on the non land models that have this engine, citroen, ford duratorq 2.2 tdci etc.

Post #424300 16th Aug 2022 8:22 pm
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bernie7sk



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Slovakia 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Rimini Red

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic31826.ht...l+pressure
https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic18979.ht...l+pressure

Post #424301 16th Aug 2022 9:11 pm
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Lucx



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Italy 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

Thanks Bernie, I have read everything even if I do not think it is directly the cause of the failure of my engine, always quality filters and I have read other cases with service from mamma land. As a layman and with the few data available, I have only read about cases with a dpf engine, so I thought about the specific c1 oil that helps in consumption and dpf filter but is not the best for engine protection

Post #424344 18th Aug 2022 1:08 pm
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I Like Chips



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Indus Silver

Just wondering could you tell me why you say the C1 oil is not the best for protection please

Post #424350 18th Aug 2022 4:23 pm
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bernie7sk



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Slovakia 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Rimini Red

Due to the particle filter, the C1 has a reduced, basically main, anti-friction additive ZDDP. simply put, it's phosphorus and zinc. I thought so too, but on the Russian forum I saw a car with stripped rockers from 2007. I don't think that a 2007 car would have a filter, especially in Russia. on the other hand, I don't know what kind of oil they used there. then there is the problem of why some rockers from one engine are perfectly fine. I think that for the time being in this issue, each answer will give birth to more questions... Sad

Post #424351 18th Aug 2022 5:56 pm
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Lucx



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Italy 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

I agree Bernie,
I think this video explains very well the importance of oil ... certainly psa engines are not really long-lived engines

Post #424418 19th Aug 2022 9:10 pm
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Lucx



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Italy 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

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some pictures of the engine, note the valve stems, and rocker arms. It is clearly a lubrication problem.
Curious about the crankshaft sprocket had a missing tooth

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Jagracer



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Bali Blue

Definately a poor oil quality wear result. According to correspondants on other forums, a lot of garages use drums of bulk cheap oil for servicing their customers cars. They certainly do around my area, as I have supplied the currect oil to them myself. A lot of main dealer serviced cars are using cheap oil, not expensive Castrol Edge, etc. When I was management in an engineering company some years ago, I used to buy Fleet Taxi Spec. Havoline oil, as it it had a long life additive in it. I have a FL2 engine in the shed if you need it. 145k miles, it was thought to be seized, but turned out to be a stuck starter motor.

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