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RobP



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Good write up. Did you have any debris / metallic bits in the drained oil?


I did not find any metallic bit or any other debris just not clean.


Cool! I'm looking at doing mine this weekend and just read in the workshop manual that both plug washers should be replaced.. I'm assuming (?) you didn't as its not mentioned in the write up but just wandering if you have noticed any slight weep at the drain plug on yours? While I'm here does anyone know the part number for the washers please?


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Nodge68



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Didn't replace mine, and it doesn't leak. The washers are aluminium, which can be used again, if not over compressed the first time. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. My daily driver.
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RobP



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I did mine over the weekend and thought I'd share my observations for others in the future.
Initially tried to do it with car flat and wheels on full lock as there is enough space... but couldn't get enough leverage to crack the level / filler plug, so took wheel off and managed to crack it but it was bloody tight and I'd say definitely more than 35nM. With the car still jacked up way above level on gearbox side I removed the filler plug and to my surprise a load of oil came out maybe 200ml so it had been overfilled before but god knows how, is there another fill point they use in the factory during build?
So then cracked the drain plug and put wheel back on lowered car while draining. Drain plug back in and then filled with 1.9ltr oil with wheels on full lock. Didn't use new copper washers and no subsequent leaks.

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I Like Chips



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Did you open the drain plug with the fluid temperature at around 60 C and with the engine running, If not then that 200ml needs to go back and recheck according to the book

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Nodge68



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The fluid temperature is only relevant for automatic transmission, not the manual gearbox. Wink 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. My daily driver.
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I Like Chips



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You are quite right I have had auto boxes on the brain for the last four years

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RobP



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I Like Chips wrote:
Did you open the drain plug with the fluid temperature at around 60 C and with the engine running, If not then that 200ml needs to go back and recheck according to the book


No the oil was cold. I put the specified 1.9 ltr of new oil in with car flat and level.

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Arctic



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Now i haver two FL 2 one manual and one Auto, it is time to change all the oils again, so more oil to purchase.

Which oils out of these would you be happy to use in your Diff, PTU

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111661700665

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370757177855

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303956199769

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254900243768

Would you also use this in your Haldex.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174003445324

any and all comments welcome

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jules



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FWIW
I dont think the ATF temp is all that critical - someone on here ( I forget whom) calculated the difference in volume of ATF when at ambient temp as opposed to 60c - its not very much. Jules

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jules



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I wasnt sure about this so I did the calculation myself.

Filling at a less than 60C will obviously overfill the autobox. But by how much ?

Using ATF thermal coefficient of expansion as 0.0007/C.
The 7L of ATF in the autobox expands by 245ml on going from 10C to 60C, and 196ml from 20C to 60C.

The question remains does overfilling by 245ml at 10C (ie 3.5% of total volume of 7000ml) actually make any difference. Jules

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Bobupndown



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I would suggest it does not, I'd rather risk running with it overfilled than underfilled.
Same as the haldex where you are meant to fill until overflow then remove 70ml. I haven't and the world hasn't ended yet. 🤔 Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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