I wonder if the old ones still fit? 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

No chance. Totally different pcd.

Yes the PCD of the Disco 2 and the Freelander 1 were different also and different in colour.

Old Defender

 Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

Richard Hammond recreated this advert on Top Gear using a Series 1. It's an impossible feat, done with clever editing and camera angles.
Still, it's an impressive advert. It must have been, because I never forgot it and if you mention it down the pub, everyone over a certain age remembers it too - if only to point out how it's complete bulls41t.

I hope this link works.

https://media.landrover.com/news/2020/06/l...w-defender

news today, new Defender get a roof tent.

In today's Financial Times

The new Land Rover Defender is “tough enough to take on any unexpected surprises,” according to a James Bond-themed ad that features three of the relaunched off-roaders careering down a grassy hill.

But the coronavirus crisis may prove one surprise too many for Britain’s biggest carmaker Jaguar Land Rover — delaying the rollout of one version of the car and damping early orders.

The hitch has given JLR’s rival, billionaire Jim Ratcliffe, a chance to recover lost ground in his race to launch a competitor vehicle.

Ineos, the chemicals group controlled by Sir Jim, plans to make the “spiritual successor” to the iconic Land Rover model that was taken out of production in 2016. After failing to buy the rights to the vehicle from JLR, the businessman vowed to make his own version.

While production of JLR’s model began in Slovakia this year, the pandemic slammed the brakes on its operations, closing the plant for months, delaying deliveries of test-drive vehicles to the all-important US and Chinese markets, and closing dealerships around the globe.

Cars arrived in US and Chinese showrooms last week, something that “should have happened 10 weeks ago,” Nick Collins, head of the Defender project, told the FT.

The delayed release of new Bond film No Time to Die from April to November has also pushed back one of the vehicle’s key marketing events. The film had been expected to increase awareness of the brand in the US and China.

JLR’s order book of just 22,000 vehicles, disclosed in its results last Monday, left analysts underwhelmed. Yet the company, which has been making cars for almost a century, still enjoys significant advantages over Ineos and executives privately say they are not daunted by the new competitor.

While Ineos has diversified from its origins in chemicals to become a conglomerate with interests spanning North Sea oilfields and even football clubs, the move into automotive manufacturing is high-risk and takes it into an industry littered with failed new entrants.

Although still more than a year from beginning production at a factory in Bridgend in South Wales, “Projekt Grenadier” has not been slowed by the pandemic, in part because the outbreak hit when little construction work was taking place at the site.

In recent weeks Welsh government contractors have levelled the site and installed roads, with builders for Ineos expected to begin work within two months, according to three people familiar with the matter.

Previously unreported details about the project show how Ineos also plans to undercut JLR on price while offering a full range of models familiar to buyers of the old Defender, according to several people briefed on the project.

The company will launch a long-wheelbase model of the vehicle late next year, with a shorter version and a pick-up model to follow. It expects to produce 30,000 cars a year. The price will start at £30,000 and rise to £45,000, according to two people who have seen the plans.

Ineos declined to comment.

Prices for JLR’s long-wheelbase model start from £45,000 but stretch to more than £100,000 with extras. The company will open orders for the delayed shorter model, which sells from £40,000, in September, and a stripped out commercial model aimed at builders is expected to start at £35,000.

When the Defender was discontinued in 2016, prices started at £23,000, although in the US, where the car has not been sold since 1996, models can change hands for more than $100,000.

The new model costs more because of expensive technology including over-the-air software updates, and because it is built on an integrated chassis to allow better road driving as well as off-road capability.

But the number of orders disappointed analysts. Robin Zhu, a Hong Kong-based analyst for Bernstein, said: “22,000 orders is somewhat underwhelming in the context of the heritage of the Defender nameplate and management's comments around strong demand.”

Despite being configured online 1.6m times by enthusiasts, only 11,000 customer orders have been placed for the car so far, with a further 11,000 test-drive cars ordered by dealers, according to JLR’s annual results.

JLR executives remain positive, saying a large number of test-drive vehicles are required for dealers in the US and China. Test cars produced in Slovakia before lockdown only arrived in China and the US last week.

Defender boss Nick Collins expects orders to swell in the coming months.

“Our research tells us that 65 per cent of customers won’t order until after a test drive,” he said. “In the context of not getting test drives, we’re actually extremely positive where we are.” 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Big advert on back page of my paper offering 3 hour test drives in new Defender.

CAPABLE OF GREAT THINGS, BOTH OFF- AND ON-ROAD
From 7th – 30th August, experience New Defender on your local roads with a unique 3-hour, unaccompanied test drive.

Available by appointment only, book today to guarantee your place behind the wheel.

Points to this web page.

https://www.landrover.co.uk/vehicles/defender/meet-defender.html FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 76k+ miles) (MY2015)

Only a rendering .

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^^^ Looks more like a Traxxas remote control toy.
Dave DAVE.
I.A.M. F1rst Driver.
Gone 2003 Discovery TD5 Auto,
Gone 1986 Defender 90 Station Wagon
Gone 1984 Range Rover 3.5 Vogue Manual.
Gone 1970 Series 11A/3 SWB 3.5 V8 Hybrid
Gone 1964 Series 11A LWB Van
Gone 1966 Series 11A SWB Van
Gone 1964 Series 11A LWB Station Wagon,

I can't really see how the rear suspension works, but those driveshafts are working at a very acute angle.

I learnt, to my cost, the dangers of stressing out original components by after markets modifications.
Looks good, but does damage.

My experiment was some 50 years ago with some wheel spacers and wider tyres and rims. Wrecked 2 sets of front wheel bearings before I was convinced the original build was best.

RealBeale wrote:

Only a rendering .

Snorkel on the wrong side !

Rear quarter ladder on BOTH sides ??

Why the swing-away spare wheel carrier ? isn't the rear door mount sufficient ?

3/10 !!

IanMetro wrote:

Big advert on back page of my paper offering 3 hour test drives in new Defender.

CAPABLE OF GREAT THINGS, BOTH OFF- AND ON-ROAD
From 7th – 30th August, experience New Defender on your local roads with a unique 3-hour, unaccompanied test drive.

Available by appointment only, book today to guarantee your place behind the wheel.

Points to this web page.

https://www.landrover.co.uk/vehicles/defender/meet-defender.html

Just got myself booked in to try one out, got to be fun and what the hell unless somebody leaves me a shed load of money i'm never going to have/drive one.
 Common sense isn't very common.
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2007 Land Rover Freelander2 I6 hse Auto

3landertwo wrote:

Snorkel on the wrong side !



Why the swing-away spare wheel carrier ? isn't the rear door mount sufficient ?

3/10 !!

Just did the 3 hour test drive in it,

Pro's;

Looks amazing
Managed to push 30mpg even though I was mostly stop-start
Steering was silky smooth
The bit off roading I managed to cram in it breezed through
The hold feature on traffic lights

Con's
Interior was meh (I test drove the basic model)
Cannot get used to electronic rear view mirror, kept messing my eyes up
Parking aid was confusing and nauseating but you'd probably get used to it in a few weeks