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OLOSTEVE



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2013 Rear Brakes

Just ordered rear disks and pads for my 2013. Had a 2007 before so needed handbrake bits, do I need anything extra now for handbrake?

Post #380406 28th Oct 2019 11:03 am
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AJ918



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You will need to deactivate the EPB before working on the rear brakes and then reactivate when finished the electronic parking brake system is incorporated in the rear brake calipers the procedure is :-

For Deactivation

Ensure its in park or neutral and the park brake deactivated and ignition turned on.

1. Press and hold the parking brake switch in the release position.

2. Wait 2 seconds

3. Press and hold the accelerator pedal in the wide open throttle position.

4. Wait 2 seconds

5. Turn ignition off and on immediately whilst still finger on park button and foot on throttle.

6. An audible noise will confirm service mode, it will also be displayed on dash.

You will hear the brake motors activate for a while.

For Reactivation

with ignition on.

1. Press and hold the parking brake switch in the apply position.

2. Wait 2 seconds

3. Press and hold the accelerator pedal in the wide open throttle position.

4. Wait 2 seconds

5. Turn ignition off and on again. keeping finger on park button and foot on throttle.

Hope this helps.

Post #380408 28th Oct 2019 12:01 pm
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ReggiePerrin



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Re: 2013 Rear Brakes

OLOSTEVE wrote:
Just ordered rear disks and pads for my 2013. Had a 2007 before so needed handbrake bits, do I need anything extra now for handbrake?

Essentially, just the discs and the pads but...

... Theoretically, you should replace the caliper mounting bolts (LR000098 x 4) but some re-use the old ones with a spot of Loctite.

Also, when I did my fronts recently, the head of one of the Torx disc retaining screws (LR002080 x1) simply shredded - very soft metal. I had to drill the screw out and replace with a new one (actually replaced both sides). These screws are the same front and back so one to watch out for. My car is also 2013 and it’s first disc change.




TORQUE Settings (Haynes Manual) May be useful.

133 Nm - Road Wheel nuts
110 Nm - Rear caliper bracket to hub carrier bolts *Do not re-use old bolts
30 Nm - Rear caliper guide pin bolts
35 Nm - Disc Torx Screw= 35Nm

Post #380414 28th Oct 2019 1:21 pm
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jules



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All the mechanics I know reuse the caliper bolts unless they are really knackered.
Nobody, so far, has been able to explain why JLR say not to reuse them. All I can think its because they have a "loctite" coating which needs to be replaced. Jules

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MotionInc



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Re: caliper bolts, now my vehicle year is different as is the motor, but I order my pads from LR dealer and asked at the time if it was necessary for me to get caliper bolts...............I was told as @jules posted above. Only if I wanted to or if the bolts were no good.

Post #380420 28th Oct 2019 4:46 pm
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ReggiePerrin



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jules wrote:
All the mechanics I know reuse the caliper bolts unless they are really knackered.
Nobody, so far, has been able to explain why JLR say not to reuse them. All I can think its because they have a "loctite" coating which needs to be replaced.

Land Rover covering their own backside perhaps...?

I replace mine because they are cheap enough. The front bolts get a fair old loading (200 Nm). A bit stretched perhaps? Not being an engineer I don’t know about this sort of stuff but at around £4 per side... probably as cheap as buying Loctite that I’d never use again until the next disc change.

Post #380423 28th Oct 2019 5:18 pm
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A wee bottle of locktite sits on my garage shelf and is rarely used but its always to hand on the few occasions that I need it Thumbs Up Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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Post #380428 28th Oct 2019 6:28 pm
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OLOSTEVE



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AJ918 wrote:
You will need to deactivate the EPB before working on the rear brakes and then reactivate when finished the electronic parking brake system is incorporated in the rear brake calipers the procedure is :-

For Deactivation

Ensure its in park or neutral and the park brake deactivated and ignition turned on.

1. Press and hold the parking brake switch in the release position.

2. Wait 2 seconds

3. Press and hold the accelerator pedal in the wide open throttle position.

4. Wait 2 seconds

5. Turn ignition off and on immediately whilst still finger on park button and foot on throttle.

6. An audible noise will confirm service mode, it will also be displayed on dash.

You will hear the brake motors activate for a while.

For Reactivation

with ignition on.

1. Press and hold the parking brake switch in the apply position.

2. Wait 2 seconds

3. Press and hold the accelerator pedal in the wide open throttle position.

4. Wait 2 seconds

5. Turn ignition off and on again. keeping finger on park button and foot on throttle.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for this info. I thought there might be a hidden problem for changing the disks.

Post #380454 28th Oct 2019 9:09 pm
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OLOSTEVE



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Re: 2013 Rear Brakes

ReggiePerrin wrote:
OLOSTEVE wrote:
Just ordered rear disks and pads for my 2013. Had a 2007 before so needed handbrake bits, do I need anything extra now for handbrake?

Essentially, just the discs and the pads but...

... Theoretically, you should replace the caliper mounting bolts (LR000098 x 4) but some re-use the old ones with a spot of Loctite.

Also, when I did my fronts recently, the head of one of the Torx disc retaining screws (LR002080 x1) simply shredded - very soft metal. I had to drill the screw out and replace with a new one (actually replaced both sides). These screws are the same front and back so one to watch out for. My car is also 2013 and it’s first disc change.




TORQUE Settings (Haynes Manual) May be useful.
Did buy these bolts, just for peace of mind. Thank you for the post.

133 Nm - Road Wheel nuts
110 Nm - Rear caliper bracket to hub carrier bolts *Do not re-use old bolts
30 Nm - Rear caliper guide pin bolts
35 Nm - Disc Torx Screw= 35Nm

Post #380455 28th Oct 2019 9:12 pm
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Steve D



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In 45 years in the trade, I’ve never fitted new caliper bracket bolts 'just because', never added locktite to caliper mounting bolts but I do fit new caliper bolts (complete with locktite already added) if they come with the pads and unless I’m training students, I don’t use a torque wrench on those bolts - you get a feel for how tight bolts should be with experience. Oh, and if I have to drill out a disc screw, it stays out. The wheel bolts hold the disc in place, not that little screw. I personally don’t know any other mechanics that do any different either. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
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Post #380461 28th Oct 2019 10:00 pm
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ReggiePerrin



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In fairness Steve, you are an experienced mechanic/technician. Those of us that aren’t, in the absence of experience and a feel for things like bolt tightness etc, are probably better off sticking to things like torque wrenches and instructions.

Post #380466 28th Oct 2019 10:30 pm
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jules



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I destroyed a locking wheel nut once cos I accidently set the torque wrench to lbsft instead of Nm - Embarassed

Had to make a "special tool" and swear a lot to get the wheel bolt back out. Very Happy Jules

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riverblanche



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Hi,
I replaced both front and rear pads on my 2013 and the only issue I had was with the Slider Pins on the rear Rolling Eyes

Double check the physical diameter Exclamation
I ordered a pair of them to use "If needed" one was needed but it was the wrong diameter Big Cry ordered correctly for a EPB model which from memory is a larger diameter but mine were the same as the previous model, dont know why as the caliper is different (pin did clean up ok and went back in)

Oh and the wind back of the EPB did seem to go on a bit Laughing .
my first ever FL2 and I did keep it longer than most other cars!
But its now gone way up Norf

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AJ918 ....You are my super hero!

Thanks for posting how to put the car into maintenance mode!

Turned my nightmare job into an easy task!

Owe you large! Bow down Bow down Bow down

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Caliper bolts are advised to be replaced with new because they are also known as stretch bolts... The clue is in the name !

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