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Yorky Bob Member Since: 28 Apr 2015 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 4561 |
My final opinion on this matter is there are too many Robs and Bobs on this thread. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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30th Apr 2018 6:42 pm |
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robbyvrs Member Since: 14 Oct 2012 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 430 |
And we're all Yorkshire Robs and Bobs as well |
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30th Apr 2018 6:46 pm |
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SkyeGuy Member Since: 23 Nov 2017 Location: Dunvegan, Isle of Skye Posts: 104 |
I'm not a Rob or a Bob, and I'm not from Yorkshire either... Currently enjoying:
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30th Apr 2018 6:52 pm |
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yorkshirerob Member Since: 09 Oct 2010 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 92 |
there does seem to be a lot of Robs n Bobs in this thread.
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30th Apr 2018 7:36 pm |
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robbyvrs Member Since: 14 Oct 2012 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 430 |
No but you want to be both so you don't feel left out |
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30th Apr 2018 7:41 pm |
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MartynB Member Since: 08 Aug 2011 Location: Currently Rootless ! Posts: 1776 |
Ok , a few words from me as resident Subaru advocate . For my two ha’porth the Subaru CVT is the smoothest gearbox I’ve ever driven period . Even though the Subaru diesels are a modest 150 horse they work exceptionally well with the CVT , as you have the maximum torque available around the speeds you would be normally overtaking . The Outback and Forester petrol engines are another matter and need a good dollop of boot and about another 25 horses to deliver the same torque at higher revs . In the Outback diesel ( euro 6 DPF - oil dilution type ) with urban crawling etc I can get as low as 38 mpg , on a long motorway run I can better 50mpg . The CVT also has a manual flappy paddle programme which ( via the CPU ) simulates 7 manual change up points if you want to play at Lewis Hamilton . One little benefit of the Subaru is that the full time synchronised 4x4 transmission is amazingly good on tyre wear , I’ve got 25,000 miles on the original tyres and I reckon I can get another 15k easy . A few other points The Subarus are not the best towing car if that matters to you . Despite not looking like it the Forester and Outback have the same ground clearance as the Freelander . The Freelander is overall more capable off-road , but anywhere I’m willing to take our Freelander , I’d be willing to take the Subaru so no detriment . The Subaru is the only car that has been 100% reliable ( touch wood ) that we have ever owned in that it’s not had a niggle in 2 years , where everything else’ I’ve ever owned or had as a company car has had something under warranty . The Eyesight driver aid package that is available with the CVT is great , it works , it’s not intrusive , in fact it’s class leading. I’ve found The service costs of the Subaru are broadly similar with keeping the Freelander properly serviced . £250 first 12 month servic , £350 second year service . Genuine brake pads are about £85 plus labour .The Subaru has 3 years bumper to bumper and 5 years powertrain warranty . If you buy one new plan on keeping to amortise the depreciation . Be amazed at the number of high end cars that will fall behind you on twisty roads . Subaru dealers are refreshingly free from corporate behaviour and offering you an iced Frappuccino , you’ll probably get a bloke in a chequered shirt who can talk with authority about using the car for shooting and fishing rather than showing you an LED diesigned by Mrs Beckham For what it’s worth when I’ve had this one 5 years I’ll certainly look at another one hopefully by that time they will have a hybrid . At that point we will probably say bye bye to the Freelander as it will be 12 years old , and keep the Outback as car 2 . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership 2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned ! 2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto . |
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30th Apr 2018 7:56 pm |
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yorkshirerob Member Since: 09 Oct 2010 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 92 |
MartynB, thanks so much for taking the time to give me your thoughts on the Subie.
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30th Apr 2018 9:53 pm |
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MartynB Member Since: 08 Aug 2011 Location: Currently Rootless ! Posts: 1776 |
No Problem Rob , we live off an unsurfaced bridleway in Shibden Valley , so having a snow capable vehicle is a necessity . We have Pirelli ATR on the Freelander and Bridgestone Dueller Sport on the Outback . Despite using summer tyres I have not been stuck this winter in the Subaru , the full time synchronised 4x4 is fantastic . You do have the option to put it in manual and negotiate extra tricky winter roads using the x mode which is similar to Landrovers terrain control /HDC , but it lacks the speed up speed down facility that LR has .
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30th Apr 2018 10:53 pm |
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Arctic Member Since: 24 Aug 2016 Location: Westmidlands Posts: 556 |
What year did the FL2 go up to without the DPF 2009 or 2011 if the later why not get a 2011 FL2, personally I think it will be hard to find something to match the FL2.
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1st May 2018 1:16 am |
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MartynB Member Since: 08 Aug 2011 Location: Currently Rootless ! Posts: 1776 |
For anyone living near Leeds , I feel that there is no point in gambling a serious amount of money on a diesel vehicle that does not meet euro 6 . The Leeds clean air zone is due at the end of 2019. It will start by charging service vehicles that do not meet euro 6 , despite the City Council’s statement that joe public will not pay , imho it’s only a matter of time before joe public get caught . It’s catchment area is huge , not just the city centre. At the risk of being being burned as a heretic the nearest like for like for a Fl2 is a Disco Sport 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership
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1st May 2018 5:47 am |
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Yorky Bob Member Since: 28 Apr 2015 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 4561 |
Pass me that fuel can. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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1st May 2018 6:05 am |
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dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4353 |
The 2011 facelift had the DPF, if you open the bonnet you will see that pre 2011 models have the "organ pipes" on the air intake pipe. Only problem with early 2011s was the hesitation problem that LR never managed to fix. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto 5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE |
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1st May 2018 8:25 am |
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Andy131 Member Since: 09 Dec 2009 Location: Manchester Posts: 2175 |
Re- Leeds clean air zone.
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1st May 2018 12:01 pm |
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RogB Member Since: 16 Dec 2014 Location: Mansfield Posts: 3880 |
well with the falling trade in price of diesel cars (compared to the high retail price the dealers then sell on at) many people cannot afford to change their car now and are left in between a Nox and CO2.
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1st May 2018 12:06 pm |
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