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Captain Worm



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Narvik Black

The Doctor wrote:
Sorry Captain Worm you are way off the mark, the other guy came up with figures that showed the manual revs less and I have driven both so I know it does.


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Post #87529 11th Jan 2011 4:01 pm
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EYorkshire



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Well a manual at 70mph is revving at 2000rpm in 6th

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npinks



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auto is nicer car to drive in my start stop short trip lifestyle compared to the old manual

its beter for towing
its better in off road situations (we the LRE ones were)
Its better on the Motorway trips
Its got a nice looking Gear stick
Its got semi manual box if i want to change gear
it does 100 miles less per tank than my old manual
Its .... its. .... just better OK Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Captain Worm



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andyfr wrote:
At an indicated 60 mph [an auto] is doing 1,600 rpm and at 70 1,800. It changes up at 2,000 rpm.


EYorkshire wrote:
Well a manual at 70mph is revving at 2000rpm in 6th


AUTO better than MANUAL = FACT Rolling with laughter

Maybe you just wernt driving the AUTO right doc and getting it into top ??? Wink Freelander 2 TD4 Auto, SE, Narvik Black, Alpaca full leather, Rear Headrest Entertainment System, 6 CD, 18 HSE Wheels, Privicy tints

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EYorkshire



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The advantages of a manual is:
1) Good for varicose veins
2) Good for keeping at bay thrombosis
3) Ideal for overweight people who don't exercise
4) Keeps both leg muscles matched in size and strength
5) Does wonders for co-ordinating the right side of the brain
6) Helps you live longer

from a medical point of view Laughing


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The Doctor



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npinks wrote:
auto is nicer car to drive in my start stop short trip lifestyle compared to the old manual

its beter for towing
its better in off road situations (we the LRE ones were)
Its better on the Motorway trips
Its got a nice looking Gear stick
Its got semi manual box if i want to change gear
it does 100 miles less per tank than my old manual
Its .... its. .... just better OK


I agree it is easier for towing and off roading (but a pro would be able to control the manual better so its just as good off road) and gear stick is good. I think the manual is better for motorway trips, I hate the commandshift trying to make out its a manual and an auto, cheap immitation of proper manual. 100 miles less per tank Shocked

With £1500 less purchase price and savings like that, driving attributes arguments aside, thats quite a financial win for the manual.

Manual better than auto = FACT Rolling with laughter LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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iain cooper



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a manual is for someone who enjoys driving and an auto is for someone who enjoys being driven.

Iain


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chicken george



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given a choice between auto and manual , I would take the black one Rolling Eyes At work
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The Doctor



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chicken george wrote:
given a choice between auto and manual , I would take the black one Rolling Eyes


Just when the blood thirsty battle was getting out of hand, cue CG with the mandatory approval of the black FL2.

I suspect if you were an LR sales exec CG, not many customers would opt for any colour other than black Laughing LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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chicken george



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

I wouldn't sell many cars at all , too much trouble. I'd just watch the yummy mummies climbing in and out of them.

auto vs manual , Ive never driven fl2 auto but many other auto cars

auto = nice but dull, can annoy on country lanes when you want it to downshift before a slippery corner not half way round it. I like the non roll back feature. mercs have a nice simple hill hold feature on autos, stab the brake pedal down and the brakes hold on until you accelerate Thumbs Up . thirstier more expensive but better resale

manual, good for spirited driving, can be a faf in town, better for shunting/parking


as for which is better for towing? who cars Laughing

offroading...do any of us use our fl2s in such conditions that it really makes any difference so that argument is largely irrelevant. I like clutch control when off road, but I drive 'farmer style', wrongly according to 4x4 instructors but I get around very nicely without any lack off mechanical sympathy. 1st gear on fl2's is too high to drive off road properly anyway. I end up clutching a lot but rarely riding the clutch, more a case of free-wheeling then using the power, then freewheeling as soon as speed gets too high At work
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dunroof



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Give it up would you, my ears are hurting. some like Man, some Autos, for whatever reason, justifiable or not. Leave it like that as there is no definative answer and no one is going to agree. Now onto something else PLEASE!

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weirdfish



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dunroof wrote:
Now onto something else PLEASE!



Marmite.....


love or hate?


Very Happy

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dunroof



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Never tasted, so neutral.

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The Doctor



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dunroof wrote:
Give it up would you, my ears are hurting. some like Man, some Autos, for whatever reason, justifiable or not. Leave it like that as there is no definative answer and no one is going to agree. Now onto something else PLEASE!


Shocked
Power to the dunroof Thumbs Up LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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EYorkshire



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Neutral Exclamation Must be manual then Thumbs Up

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