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taztastic

Member Since: 03 Feb 2011
Location: North West
Posts: 8652

Reduced the value....Complete and utter tosh, for an enthusiast that car is unique, it will command a price far higher than any other of similar age and mileage irrespective of spec, it's unique.

Dealers prefer ordinary cars as they are lazy and cannot sell a vehicle on its merits, only on its book price, how many threads on here tell of dealers and their staff having little knowledge, they simply shift metal, anything unusual and they have a little work to do, goes against their ethic.

The top car dealers in the UK, specialise in the unusual, not necessarily exotic.

Fantastic result with that car Mav

16th Dec 2012 8:59 pm

realspeed

Member Since: 26 Mar 2011
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 574

I am not saying don't upgrade the spec if that's what pleases, far from it. Having owned and driven many cars in over 50 years of motoring I know insurance companies can be funny about vehicle alterations, and may not pay out if not informed about modifications if involved in an accident whoevers fault it may be.

I suspect that is the only way it could be sold to another person, dealerships I was referring to only. Maybe I didn't make that clear enough

Selling privately will always command a higher price to which you are referring

Realspeed Ex 2010 Freelander2 GS-e Diesel manual Silver owner

16th Dec 2012 9:07 pm

Mav71

Member Since: 15 Nov 2008
Location: Leicester
Posts: 2575

2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Stornoway Grey

realspeed wrote:
The only downside is you have reduced the value of the car by at least half. I doubt if any dealer will actually want to take it in part exchange in the future as it would cost too much to restore it back to what it should be for that year.

Dealers prefer a car as built as it is easier to sell, even previous cars I have owned the dealerships have removed a tow bar to bring it into the correct spec.

Just one other thing you should inform your insurance company about the modifications as you may find your policy only covers the manufactures standards not any mods.

Realspeed

Mmmmm, interesting considering I have a firm offer by my local LR dealer at £13750 just to buy it off me from just 10 days ago. I only went in to get the chassis number off a 2013 MY to ensure I ordered the right fog surrounds.

They wanted it because of the work that has gone into it, and that it would be a £14995 car on their forecourt and hey have buyers waiting for decent sub £15k FL2's with decent spec, also because it is something different and would attract buyers. They loved it also because everything done is using Land Rover parts. Most dealers are struggling to find decent stock of older Freelander 2's in decent condition as people are tending to hold on to their cars longer, and there is a massive boom in SUV sales at the moment.

Regarding insurance, do you think I am stupid? Of course they know about EVERY thing on the car, and if it is damaged in an accident, the parts get replaced like for like. Not just back to original spec.

I one of my 20" wheels get damaged for example, it gets replaced with another 20" wheel. You really need to get a grip and up to date with things. Alot has changed in the last 50 years!

I do this sort of stuff because I enjoy it. I worry about what the car will sell for when the time comes. As that time is not now, I don't care if it is worth £5 or £50000.

Your comments are total rubbish. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

16th Dec 2012 10:53 pm

npinks

Member Since: 28 Jun 2007
Location: Ls25
Posts: 20090

That's a good offer, a well kept car and been different goes to show you've not wasted your time

16th Dec 2012 11:14 pm

Mav71

Member Since: 15 Nov 2008
Location: Leicester
Posts: 2575

taztastic wrote:
Reduced the value....Complete and utter tosh, for an enthusiast that car is unique, it will command a price far higher than any other of similar age and mileage irrespective of spec, it's unique.

Dealers prefer ordinary cars as they are lazy and cannot sell a vehicle on its merits, only on its book price, how many threads on here tell of dealers and their staff having little knowledge, they simply shift metal, anything unusual and they have a little work to do, goes against their ethic.

The top car dealers in the UK, specialise in the unusual, not necessarily exotic.

Fantastic result with that car Mav

Thanks Taz, I am fortunate to have a dealer that knows LR inside out and appreciates unique examples. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

16th Dec 2012 11:15 pm

Mav71

Member Since: 15 Nov 2008
Location: Leicester
Posts: 2575

Big Dave wrote:
Good write up Mav!

Overall I think it looks well

Also, fair play for having the patience and making it as individual as you have!

Do you have a private plate? To completely hide it's age? That would be the only giveaway now!

Yep, she is on an ageless plate with no year identifier. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

16th Dec 2012 11:17 pm

Mav71

Member Since: 15 Nov 2008
Location: Leicester
Posts: 2575

npinks wrote:
That's a good offer, a well kept car and been different goes to show you've not wasted your time

Its an amazing offer which I considered very carefully. But I would only swap it now for a 2013 FL2 HSE SD4 and you know how much that would cost at the moment,and as we have just ordered a new caravan. Changing the car will have to wait maybe another 12 months or 2 years. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

16th Dec 2012 11:21 pm

chicken george

Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: N. Yorks
Posts: 13283

2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

as long as mods are fitted properly and original parts used then dealers should pay well for such a car. its mods using after market parts that they dislike.
how do you go about repairing such a thing when you are unsure here to get parts etc? At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

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16th Dec 2012 11:31 pm

Mav71

Member Since: 15 Nov 2008
Location: Leicester
Posts: 2575

chicken george wrote:
as long as mods are fitted properly and original parts used then dealers should pay well for such a car. its mods using after market parts that they dislike.
how do you go about repairing such a thing when you are unsure here to get parts etc?

Thanks GC! That's one of the best replies I have seen you write

appreciate your support! Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

17th Dec 2012 10:03 am

EYorkshire

Member Since: 18 Nov 2010
Location: (!)
Posts: 4392

Excellent Biography yet again, how do you have the time

Must have caught CG sober, all the words in the right order as well

17th Dec 2012 10:14 am

Mav71

Member Since: 15 Nov 2008
Location: Leicester
Posts: 2575

EYorkshire wrote:
Excellent Biography yet again, how do you have the time

Must have caught CG sober, all the words in the right order as well

I did it yesterday while the Mrs and little Mav were having a baking marathon in the kitchen! I have to admit, I was losing the will to live by the end lol! Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

17th Dec 2012 11:22 am

Ooma

Member Since: 14 Mar 2012
Location: Uk
Posts: 94

2008 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Fantastic Job - Very impressed.. Couple of questions:

- did you consider replacing the back strip down the centre of the doors to be colour coded? or was your preference black. It looks good either way, so just a thought after colour coding the rest.

- what do you use to clean your car? I'm guessing lots!

Enjoyed the read!

Thanks '08 Freelander 2 HSE in Stornoway Grey

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17th Dec 2012 11:27 am

Mav71

Member Since: 15 Nov 2008
Location: Leicester
Posts: 2575

Ooma wrote:
Fantastic Job - Very impressed.. Couple of questions:

- did you consider replacing the back strip down the centre of the doors to be colour coded? or was your preference black. It looks good either way, so just a thought after colour coding the rest.

- what do you use to clean your car? I'm guessing lots!

Enjoyed the read!

Thanks

Body colour door mouldings was considered. But as they are there to protect against other people's doors, I would be worried about the paint being damaged easily as it is not a solid surface.

I kind of like the contrast though. It looked too busy when the door handles were black, but now they are body colour I like the look.

I used Poor boys professional polish, Poor Boys Black Hole glaze and Do Do Juice Super Natural Wax. So I do keep it nice and clean.

I am just sitting at my LR dealer while it is having it's 6 year 90k service (although it is on 56000 miles), and the technician just came out to me and said it wants for nothing and is in an incredible condition for a 6 year old car.

There is not one thing that looks even close to needing addressing. I mentioned the airbag lifting up at the top, and he said it won't effect safety at all, but it is up to me if I change it as it is purely cosmetic. So I think I will change it at some point. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

17th Dec 2012 11:50 am

chicken george

Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: N. Yorks
Posts: 13283

I might add that is I found a used car for sale with modded front end etc I would be suspicious that it had been crashed or stolen and stripped for parts at some time. I would buy it eventually but not without some more confirmations of its history, This weighs against the fact that if it is genuine its obviously from a car nut and will be a good buy.

modding also points towards possible re-mapping causing a few alarm bells

just balancing my opinions, I'm undecided now

a tatty modded car - never buy
a tidy one - buy, after a extra history check

but at the end of the day its grey so I'm out At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

17th Dec 2012 12:00 pm

Ooma

Member Since: 14 Mar 2012
Location: Uk
Posts: 94

Mav71 wrote:

I kind of like the contrast though. It looked too busy when the door handles were black, but now they are body colour I like the look.

Fair point.. Handles do make a big difference.

Mav71 wrote:

I used Poor boys professional polish, Poor Boys Black Hole glaze and Do Do Juice Super Natural Wax. So I do keep it nice and clean.

Good amount of elbow grease too! I never understand the difference between all the different polishes, glazes etc. I was going to say they were a good price too, until i googled the dodo juice

Mav71 wrote:
but it is up to me if I change it as it is purely cosmetic. So I think I will change it at some point.

I'm not 'purely cosmetic' is something that rings well with you. Of course you will change it

You make me feel lazy about cleaning my car. I am by the way, but after seeing yours I now want to clean it. I just usually lose motivation after the soap bit

BTW what do you do the first wash with, your cars look white and caked in it! '08 Freelander 2 HSE in Stornoway Grey

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17th Dec 2012 12:01 pm

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