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bigalf1961



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jefandjax



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Hello to all

i am sure that the FL2 can tow 2 tons max ( landrover specs), so it does not matter what the weight is mam or otherwise because you cant or should not exceed 2 tons on the hitch. therfore as long as the trailer and its contents weighs 2 tons or less no problem!! you might be able tow more off road if you wish but as stated landrover have a max of 2 tons!!
not sure why as a disco only weighs a bit more but is rated at 3.5 tons, perhaps a question to ask of landrover

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Post #117292 18th Oct 2011 10:43 am
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The law concerning the towing of trailers is;

If you passed your DSA test prior to Jan 97, you may drive any vehicle up to 7.5 tonnes MAM, or a vehicle of 7.5 tonnes MAM plus a trailer with a MAM of less than 750 Kg. Ie 8.25 tonnes total.

For after Jan 97, unless a B+E (or higher grade) licence is obtained, then the MAM of the outfit must not exceed 3.5 tonnes, and the trailer must not exceed to unladen weight of the tow vehicle. IE a F2 with it's MAM of 2505kg, may only tow a trailer with a MAM of 995 Kg.

This is regardless of whether the tow vehicle or the trailer are loaded to their maximum. If a Police Officer suspects you are not old enough to have taken your DSA prior to Jan 97, and suspects your combination falls outside these rules, you will almost certainly be stopped and checked. There is NO requirement to take your vehicle to a weighbridge, as both your tow vehicle and trailer must carry a plate stating the vehicle's MAM. Falling short of compliance will almost certainly result in you being reported for summons.

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jefandjax wrote:
Hello to all

i am sure that the FL2 can tow 2 tons max ( landrover specs), so it does not matter what the weight is mam or otherwise because you cant or should not exceed 2 tons on the hitch. therfore as long as the trailer and its contents weighs 2 tons or less no problem!! you might be able tow more off road if you wish but as stated landrover have a max of 2 tons!!
not sure why as a disco only weighs a bit more but is rated at 3.5 tons, perhaps a question to ask of landrover

regards

john f


The maximum towing weight for a vehicle has nothing to do with driver licencing, except that you will have your licence endorsed if you exceed it. The figure is obtained by the maximum weighted trailer which can be restarted on a certain grade of incline, and perform other prescribed movements safely.

As you stated, vehicle may well tow far in excess of this figure on private land, where the public have no access. But on a highway it must be complied with.

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Honestly can't see any point in this restriction about towing weights. Having passed my driving test way back in 1963 and towed caravans. I have had no training in how to do it yet seemed to have managed without any trouble. Just another stupid law made by some politician who was trying to make a name for themselves.

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bigalf1961



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if in any doubt go and do the test you then know that you are coverd for your needs dont take any chances on towing as if you do get caught think of the implications that you may not be insured wich will only get you points and a big fine Thumbs Up rainy-city
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Post #147427 2nd Jul 2012 8:50 am
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bigalf1961 wrote:
if in any doubt go and do the test you then know that you are coverd for your needs dont take any chances on towing as if you do get caught think of the implications that you may not be insured wich will only get you points and a big fine Thumbs Up

Agree - you will be driving without a valid licence and uninsured.
As to why the rules changed, I think it is very probably to bring us into line with the rest of Europe, in the same way that you now need to take a class D or D1 to drive a vehicle with more than 8 passenger seats (such as a Series Station Wagon!)

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landy19840



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Past master, we have been doing that for years! But for some reason land station wagon is exempt from that rule!

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landy19840 wrote:
Past master, we have been doing that for years!


Question Not sure what you mean - the restriction used to be vehicles over 16 seats, so long as the driver was over 21 (I think the term was "Large Motor Car"). The 8-seat rule is (relatively) recent. Colleagues in Germany could never understand how we could turn up with a 16-seater minibus without taking an extra test. The 8-seat rule can anyway be broken within the UK under certain circumstances by drivers over 21 and under 70.
I didn't know about the Station Wagon exemption. May be the old "dual purpose vehicle" rule?

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