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AndyC



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I wonder if there is a fuse for the "stop/start" system - once pulled you may never have to worry about it again Thumbs Up
However I also wonder why anybody buys the _e version or are they all like that these days Question 2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
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Post #52189 16th Dec 2009 1:06 pm
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zone30



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Since March 2009 all manual shifts are _e's. They are working on the auto-shifts too and when that is sorted all those will be _e's too.

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mcphersonstrut



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upnaway wrote:
Thanks Guys for the no help, its transpired that its not the engine stopping thats iffed him off (he does not travel into the bright lights of Droitwich very often) but a warning light in the cluster that tells him to change up before his misses suggests he slow down.


The 'Yorkshire' method of disabling the 'change gear now you fool to save the planet warning light' would be to stick a small square of black insulating tape onto the perspex screen in the line of sight Laughing

We also use sand in our tea/coffee instead of sugar up here, not only is it better for you, once dried out you can use it over and over again, thus saving the planet Thumbs Up

Post #52277 18th Dec 2009 9:13 am
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The Doc



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Post #52283 18th Dec 2009 9:44 am
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chicken george



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mcphersonstrut wrote:


We also use sand in our tea/coffee instead of sugar up here, not only is it better for you, once dried out you can use it over and over again, thus saving the planet Thumbs Up


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Post #52288 18th Dec 2009 10:33 am
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superspark



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Hi.i was just wondering if any one gave this stop start thing any thought of total cost.What i meen.benefits:you get road tax a little cheaper and a few more miles.
Against: Well if you were to imagine the average stop and start of the engine over a period of,lets say four years.
Firstly the freelander 2 with no stop/start system,average wear and tear on starter motor,flywheel and battery.
secondly,lets look at the wear and tear of the new stop/start system.Over a period of four years would be equal to that of a ten year old model,the wear and tear on the components are likely to be three times that of the prevous model.
verdict. any money saved by the stop stat syetem is gonna catch up later in the form of new starter/flywheel and batteries over the vehicals life.
Not so good in the long run for some poor sod who buys a four to six year old vehical. Censored Censored

Post #52374 18th Dec 2009 8:24 pm
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MLEE



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superspark wrote:
Firstly the freelander 2 with no stop/start system,average wear and tear on starter motor,flywheel and battery.
secondly,lets look at the wear and tear of the new stop/start system.Over a period of four years would be equal to that of a ten year old model,the wear and tear on the components are likely to be three times that of the prevous model.


I enquired about that earlier this year.
I was lead to believe that items such as the ones you've mentioned above - have been uprated as a result of the new stop/start system.

Post #52379 18th Dec 2009 8:58 pm
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chicken george



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yes upgraded components, and stop/start doesnt stop the car until it is warmed and easy to restart. The most strain on the started is starting a cold engine. At work
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Post #52380 18th Dec 2009 9:01 pm
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Big Dave



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I worked at BMW last year when the systems were relatively new, and there were some cars that had the stop start system had done 50 000 miles with no fault whatsoever, which shows that modern engines aren't affected too much by stopping and starting. I know a guy from Land Rover who has said that each component has been beefed up to cope with at leaast 10x as many starts than a standard none stop start car. E.g, the starter motor is good for 30 000 starts apparently...!

To switch the BMW system off you had to tell the dealer you were thinking about selling the car and going to a different brand...then the dealer would do it with their flash computer. Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
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Post #52381 18th Dec 2009 9:10 pm
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zone30



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There's a specification of what they exactly upgraded and changed to accomadate the start/stop system which was for me the reason I waited out on it. The improvements were quite impressive to me to convince me to go for it since they did not upgrade the price as well.

These days I mostly drive in snow setting which disables it anyway. I'm also quite used to it so it doesn't bother me in any way otherwise either. To me it works perfectly.

Nice to know that it can handle 10x as many starts, as I probably average on about 3 to 4 more starts then without. I do drive quite a lot of continious distances so even the regular configuration would not be overly strained in my opinion.

It's not descined to drive around the church tower, is it...

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flylr



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zone30 wrote:
Got the start/stop system myself and got used to it. Doesn't shut the engine off all the mime, especially with these hot temps and my wife thinking airco is the same as your car being a fridge. It usually stops then restart in 10 to 15 seconds an never stops again.


Just like mine. Turns off the engine first time for under 30 seconds, then restarts and then doesn't turn off again!
It seems to be linked to use of the aircon, but don't understand why it won't switch off again - even after idling for several minutes even though it saw fit to switch off the first time. I think the system still needs work to get it right.

Also the 'eco' gear change light is plain stupid. If you change gear when it tells you to - particularly 6th, the engine can't cope with the load and you have to shift back to 5th.

Yes I'll say it again - and again - and again - should have bought the auto!! Big Cry

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Hello to all

My wife is contemplating buying a TD4_E, at 10k cheaper than the SE TD4 is it good buying or should we cough for the extra $$..

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chicken george wrote:


Shocked you use real coffee and tea, flash git Evil or Very Mad


We re-use the tea bags at least 5 times. Laughing

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