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GJH0702



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Sumatra Black
Not just LR's

My daughter collected new BMW X1 in December ( latest model) - recovered last weekend as management light came on.
Been in dealer since Monday- less than 2k miles - car needs a new auto gearbox Censored

Just shows BMW's not much better than LR cars ! 2011 XS,Sumatra Black, GONE MARCH 2014- RR Evoque Prestige 5 door ,MY 2014,Loire Blue, Silver Roof, Panoramic roof.
MY 2016 Disco Sport HSE Auto Scotia Grey,REJECTED
Mercedes E220D AMG line with air suspension(Gone)
DS 200 SE Dynamic my 21 (Gone)
DS 200 SE Dynamic my 22 (Gone)
Audi Q5 40TDI S line (gone)
Discovery Sport D200 S 2024 MY

Post #429916 10th Feb 2023 7:54 am
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Dartman the one



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As I've said before gearboxes are common to many cars and makes, it really depends on who wants to trash a car's or manufacturer's reputation, the other point is that volume production alters the percentages so a car with high production fitted with a low number of auto boxes sold becomes apparently more reliable, most LR's have a high percentage of auto boxes. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

Post #429918 10th Feb 2023 8:15 am
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NoDo$h



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England 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

While you may see the exact same components used in 2, 3, 4 different makes, they are *not* necessarily the same in quality.

Each manufacturer will have their own tolerance on quality and failure rates, and will agree a price with the component manufacturer that is based on a commensurate level of quality assurance, as well as on volumes purchased.

So if Brand A wants a 99.9% quality rate, they will pay more per unit (assuming equal volumes) than Brand B, who are happy with a 97.5% quality rate. All off the same production line, but the degree of pre gate-release testing is much higher on those going to Brand A.

It happens for everything from home printers to interior trim clips to gearboxes. Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

Post #429919 10th Feb 2023 9:01 am
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Lightwater



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Ukraine 2013 Freelander 2 2.0T SE Auto Fuji White

In the 1970s my parents bought a new Lancia. We were all in the car, less than a kilometre down the road the gearbox failed. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Post #429927 10th Feb 2023 11:36 am
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Dave47



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Izmir Blue

NoDo$h wrote:
While you may see the exact same components used in 2, 3, 4 different makes, they are *not* necessarily the same in quality.

Each manufacturer will have their own tolerance on quality and failure rates, and will agree a price with the component manufacturer that is based on a commensurate level of quality assurance, as well as on volumes purchased.

So if Brand A wants a 99.9% quality rate, they will pay more per unit (assuming equal volumes) than Brand B, who are happy with a 97.5% quality rate. All off the same production line, but the degree of pre gate-release testing is much higher on those going to Brand A.

It happens for everything from home printers to interior trim clips to gearboxes.


The same with home entertainment units. TVs, RADIOs, SOUND SYSTEMS, CAMERAs etc. for those it all depends on the supplier. DAVE.

Post #429929 10th Feb 2023 12:11 pm
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Just a driver



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Stornoway Grey

Like everything in life if something is a lot cheaper then an equivalent somewhere else there has to be a reason, it just what those reasons are.

Post #429933 10th Feb 2023 2:47 pm
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AT1963



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey

Is this not also the case with filters??

Post #429985 12th Feb 2023 7:41 pm
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NoDo$h



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England 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

No, filters are expressly forbidden from this quality management approach. It's article 47b of the Zygon Treaty. Wink Current driveway contents:
2021 V60 Cross Country B5
2009 FL2 dog bus and shooting wagon

On Order: 2023 Fisker Ocean Ultra - deposit paid.

Post #429986 12th Feb 2023 8:58 pm
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