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Landy64



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Problem finding someone to repair rust issue!

Hi all

I don't know why but I am finding it difficult to find a garage/person to sort out an inner rear doors wheel arch rust problem on my car. I am sure that I cannot be the only person to have had rust in this place as it must be common on Freelander 2's surely. I also wonder as some people have said uh oh "needs a new panel welding on" or yes could be fibreglassed but rust would be back in 2 weeks!! I feel I am going round the houses. I also think because its not just a flat area (door pillar) that some are thinking that its more difficult to do etc etc.

Help Confused

Im in South Yorkshire, just outside Donny.



Post #408584 3rd Jun 2021 8:55 am
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RogB



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you could try these guys, apparently have a good reputation and do restoration work so can do welding etc


https://www.maltingsoffroad.co.uk/

most 'normal' garages wont touch welding now in my experience

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amerclarke



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That seems quite a lot of rust, any history of the cause? Al C

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Milothedog



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I would suggest you try a local classic car restorer. that's the sort of thing they sort out all the time. 2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
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Agree with Rog B , Maltings are the sort of people who will not mislead you . To do the job properly won’t be cheap anywhere , but there must be repair panels available as cars do get crashed . You do have to ask though if repairing it will be cost effective In the long run . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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Post #408591 3rd Jun 2021 9:11 am
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Landy64



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RogB wrote:
you could try these guys, apparently have a good reputation and do restoration work so can do welding etc


https://www.maltingsoffroad.co.uk/

most 'normal' garages wont touch welding now in my experience


Thanks Rog - I know where they are and will give em a try.

Post #408592 3rd Jun 2021 9:12 am
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Landy64



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amerclarke wrote:
That seems quite a lot of rust, any history of the cause?


When I bought the car back in 2018 there was only the small ish patch on the 1st pic and did say to myself will get it sorted. However time went on and as don't use the back doors that often and its not the first thing you look at when opening the door (down). I had the car stood for a while during lockdown as we all have and only recently noticed when I was giving it a good clean just recently and wham bam saw the devastation. On the 2nd pic it was not a hole but a patch that i touched with my fingers and went through the patch Big Cry .

Thinking back over the years I mostly used to get it washed at these hand car wash places and notice that they think that everyone goes off roading and open each door and jet spray the bottoms of the doors?? What I think then happens is water is then on the inside of the bottom of the doors and then is not dried?? so the water just sits till it dries maybe. Ive no other rust patches on the bodywork anywhere apart from the usual underneath the car which I think/hope is common on landrover cars?

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Landy64



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MartynB wrote:
Agree with Rog B , Maltings are the sort of people who will not mislead you . To do the job properly won’t be cheap anywhere , but there must be repair panels available as cars do get crashed . You do have to ask though if repairing it will be cost effective In the long run .


I agree but the car drives perfectly and has only done 123K and yes I am concerned on what it may cost but would I be right that it may be a MOT failure if I don't take action? It is near the rear seat belt bolts but the rust is on the body panel and not on the lower carriage frame the seat belt is attached too.

My mind is all over and cannot believe that something so small could send the car to the breakers??? Unless I advertise it as spares or repairs on here? Any idea what, I if had to go down that road what I could get for it?

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That's progress I suppose.
When I was younger I spent every weekend welding new sills or wings on to cars that were only three years old. Changing mini subframes was a well hated but frequent job. Every garage carried out these tasks, bread and butter.

Fast forward 40 years, and bodywork tends to last 10 years +, no longer does mud get compacted behind the headlights and they fall out before the first MOT - every car has plastic wing liners. dipping car bodies in zinc prior to painting really does help. Garages now spend more time fixing sensors, brakes, suspension (pot holes?) and cars get scrapped long before they rot out, so the skills have gone, despite MIG taking over from gas welding it just isn't commercially viable. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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Post #408613 3rd Jun 2021 12:17 pm
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dazs



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you cant fibreglass that , it needs welding as its close to seatbelt mounts , should be a fairly straightforward panel replacement , most bodyshops should be able to do that Thumbs Up dazs
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Dave47



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I had rust close to that area, but only visible as
slight blistering once the door was opened,
the panels are available my guy cut out the rot
and then cut the new panel to suit, mines the third
Freelander 2 he's done,
I did make contacted with him through a reputable sprayer that I've used
stands to reason really they would work hand in hand. Wink
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dazs wrote:
you cant fibreglass that , it needs welding as its close to seatbelt mounts , should be a fairly straightforward panel replacement , most bodyshops should be able to do that Thumbs Up


Yup, too much rust. Fiberglass would only work if you're unscrupulous and plan to sell the vehicle immediately... it would definitely come back soon, to say nothing of structural integrity. Needs to be cut out and panel welded in.

Post #408630 3rd Jun 2021 5:02 pm
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Landy64



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Thanks Daz, Dave, Merlin and all for your comments and advice which I have taken on board.

Ive an appointment with a local garage on Monday that after showing them the car today are going to remove the side skirts to see the extent of the rust and go from there. It would be hard to quote without seeing the whole problem first and just doing a patch here and there won't help. Ive then got to decide depending on cost which way to turn?

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dazs



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I wouldnt expect that to be too expensive , but i would ensure that they remove everything with rust on , and that its treated correctly inside and out.

Let us know how you get on dazs
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Boxbrownie



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Bloomin’ell......not seen it as bad as that on a FL2 before, ours was a2006 and was spotless (well apart from fretting rust spots where the rear hatch trim rubbed)....that looks more like our full fat was at 6 years old, now they do rust! Regards

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