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BeakyNB



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Park Brake Fault but EPB is working

Hi,
I've searched and some helpful posts but not managed to find an answer or solution.

FL2, 2014, probably one of the last of the models. Auto box.

Battery failed. Lots of flashing lights, dials stuttering etc.
Battery replace with a higher rate unit. Standard type, not AGM.

AA reset most of the warnings, but not the EPB fault warning.
The EPB operates fine. You can hear the motors actuating.
Put in/out of maintenance mode. No difference.

Had to take it to dealer to get it registered for the new battery. WTF!!!

Anyway. They say it needs a new EPB module. Even though it is working!
Are they taking the p*ss?

Not checked any fuses yet. Maybe I need to do that.

Any thoughts?

Cheers.

Post #407617 12th May 2021 7:21 am
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Welcome.

Can't help with the EPB but modern cars have smart alternators, these modify the output based on electrical load and battery state. As the battery ages the system treats the battery with care and can reduce the current so it charges the battery over a longer period but more gently.

When you fit a new battery the system needs to be told that it can resume full output. Nothing drastic will happen if you don't, but lots of short runs might see you ending up with a flat battery as the alternator is treating your nice new battery with kid gloves.

You could always try the "master reset" undo both battery connectors, touch them together for say 30 seconds and then refit them positive first. You will need to recalibrate the windows afterwards. This shuts down the system fully, and clears the communications fully, if a module has seen something that it doesn't like it can broadcast error messages long after the error has gone. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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PRadd



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Are you sure non AGM is correct? Mine is also a 2014 and definitely AGM type

Just changed mine about a month ago (was still original) for a Yuasa 9115 I think it was - I was a little concerned re comments I had read about needing to get it "coded" by the dealer - completely unnecessary and I have suffered no ill effects at all - just swapped battery and all good Thumbs Up 2014 Freelander 2 TD4 Manual Dynamic
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CED



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Regarding AGM batteries.Depends if the late build autos had stop/start, I don’t know, but the manuals did .

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PRadd



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Ah - mine is indeed a manual, I assumed autos would have stop start also? 2014 Freelander 2 TD4 Manual Dynamic
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BeakyNB



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Thanks Andy131 on info regards smart alternators.

Just a shame they're smart enough to know when a battery is aging, but not smart enough to recognise when a new one is installed. Wink

To the other responders. Thanks.
It definitely was not an AGM OEM battery.
Auto box, with no stop/start.

Cheers.

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PRadd wrote:
Are you sure non AGM is correct? Mine is also a 2014 and definitely AGM type

Just changed mine about a month ago (was still original) for a Yuasa 9115 I think it was - I was a little concerned re comments I had read about needing to get it "coded" by the dealer - completely unnecessary and I have suffered no ill effects at all - just swapped battery and all good Thumbs Up


Swapped mine for new Varta, no issues to report and no 'recoding'.

Autos don't have stop start I'm glad to say! Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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Stop start is not a problem to be honest, it had stopped working with the original battery before I bought the vehicle last year, came back on with the new battery - but it isn't a problem so long as the 2nd thing I do, after pressing "start", is press the "start stop" button to switch it off Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter 2014 Freelander 2 TD4 Manual Dynamic
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BeakyNB



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Tried the hard reset.
Battery leads connected for about 30 mins.

Also tried putting the EPM in and out of maintenance mode.

No difference. Still get the Park Brake Fault warning.
Annoyingly, it is still working fine though.

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Do you still have the EPB failure?
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BeakyNB wrote:
Thanks Andy131 on info regards smart alternators.

Just a shame they're smart enough to know when a battery is aging, but not smart enough to recognise when a new one is installed. Wink


Cheers.


I think they are…. In the same way that the car modifies its treatment of an aging battery as it deteriorates, it will modify its treatment of a new battery - just not instantly.


It can be told about a new battery too - my iCarsoft diagnostic tool (for example) has the facility but your average battery retailer fitting a new battery (like our Halfords for inst) are just going to bung the new battery in and off you go… no harm done.

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if a car has an agm battery ,it usually needs recoding,stopstart or not.my freelander 2009 reg has stop start and of course an agm battery,but this model year relearns and resets after about 12hrs.im not sure about the later models,but if they do need coding and you dont do it the car might charge wrongly,thinking it has a poor battery fitted.

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Didn't re-code mine on a 2014 with stop/start - not had any problem at all - just replaced the battery with new & reset the windows Thumbs Up 2014 Freelander 2 TD4 Manual Dynamic
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the vw gas caddys,were having charging problems after un coded batteries were fitted by our guys at the road side.the batteries lasted about 2 to 3 months then went flat.the dealers could tell they were un coded and we had claims for new ones.

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PRadd



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My new battery has been on for well over a year now with no issues.... also no issues with a new battery fitted to my Honda (with stop/start also) Thumbs Up

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