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Landypandy



Member Since: 19 Mar 2021
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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Galway Green
Auto gearbox

My SD4 auto 2011 65k miles has a gearbox issue. It works beautifully until I’m in heavy London traffic , after a while, it jolts when I take up the drive. So if I’m holding it on the footbrake and the traffic moves, I release the footbrake to creep forward and I get a jolt, like the car behind has run into me. It doesn’t do it all the time, but the longer stuck in traffic the worse it gets. I guess the gearbox oil is at its hottest.
I can’t find an invoice for a gearbox service so I assume it’s never been done. Would this help and does anyone have any indie recommendations in Kent or SE London for this.
Thanks

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MotionInc



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Defo try a gearbox fluid re & re.......this is an amazing forum with great members and someone will be by shortly with a place to get this done. Volvo also uses the same setup as certain year class FL2s, so a reputable Volvo indy might also be a useful alternative.

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blacktiger



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Could be expensive play in the splines going into the PTU. Could be a CV joint with play in it, although I don't image just one with play would jolt the whole car. Or could be that your box needs a service oil change. 65K is about the right time to do it. MY13 Santorini Black SD4 HSE

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alex_pescaru



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It can be solved for a while with a software update that will "mask" the real problem.
If you want to keep the car for long time, you need to replace some o-rings inside.

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Re: Auto gearbox

Landypandy wrote:
My SD4 auto 2011 65k miles has a gearbox issue. It works beautifully until I’m in heavy London traffic , after a while, it jolts when I take up the drive. So if I’m holding it on the footbrake and the traffic moves, I release the footbrake to creep forward and I get a jolt, like the car behind has run into me. It doesn’t do it all the time, but the longer stuck in traffic the worse it gets. I guess the gearbox oil is at its hottest.
I can’t find an invoice for a gearbox service so I assume it’s never been done. Would this help and does anyone have any indie recommendations in Kent or SE London for this.
Thanks


Another newbie, where's the hello?
That aside, had similar issue with mine, rectified by way of software update.
Don't know where you are but I've been using RCV in East Peckham - they're about 35 miles away from me but rather deal with them than my nearest dealer. Nice people

Post #405456 19th Mar 2021 2:21 pm
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Timbo_1975



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blacktiger wrote:
Could be expensive play in the splines going into the PTU. Could be a CV joint with play in it, although I don't image just one with play would jolt the whole car. Or could be that your box needs a service oil change. 65K is about the right time to do it.


Does anyone change the filter inside the pan, or just flush & replace the fluid in the autobox ? My recent purchase has 106k, no evidence of a fluid change....

Post #405481 19th Mar 2021 6:06 pm
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Andy131



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Didn't know there was a filter in the pan.
At 106K you are well and truly overdue an oil change, it's easy enough to do, but will take up most of the day as you can only do partial changes. Drop the oil (about a litre), replace missing oil, run through the gears while stationary and repeat, and repeat, and repeat etc until the oil comes out the same colour as it goes in. for a 7ish litre box you will probably need around 12 litres of oil.

A professional auto gearbox specialist will have a machine that connects between the oil cooler and gearbox, this captures the old oil and fills with new oil on the fly meaning that it only uses the correct amount of oil and takes considerably less time.
Lots of posts her about how to do it properly.

You will be shocked at the blackened burned stuff that comes out.

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Post #405487 19th Mar 2021 8:00 pm
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Badger51



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Timbo_1975 wrote:
Does anyone change the filter inside the pan, or just flush & replace the fluid in the autobox ? My recent purchase has 106k, no evidence of a fluid change....


As far as I am aware the auto g/box has to be removed & dismantled to access the filter. Not a job for the faint hearted Rolling with laughter (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
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itsaguything



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I do concur that its time for the transmission and diffs fluid change. But I highly doubt that is the fix for the issue at hand. Rings ? seals? even a cv joint will cause what you describe.
One thing for certain, deal with it now or suffer a bigger issue. Guy Pensa
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Post #405936 30th Mar 2021 10:49 am
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moestr7v8



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I am going to have my auto box serviced soon by my very experienced Indie, what is the correct ATF fluid to buy for my 2009 auto and how much on average does it take to flush it through
Thanks in advance.
Moe

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Arese



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JWS3309 ATF
4 L for a single flush

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moestr7v8



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Thanks Arese for the info,where else can you find out information this fast, what a great forum this is.
Cheers
Moe

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Badger51



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Arese wrote:
JWS3309 ATF
4 L for a single flush


Sorry Arese but that quantity is wrong. 4L will be enough for a “dump & fill” but for a full flush you will need at least 12L in my opinion.

A quick search moestr7v8 & you would have come up with this thread which will tell you all you need to know.

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic28619.html (Now Sold). 2008 Freelander 2 (Nazca Sand) SE TD4 Auto. Statutory write off & on WOVR for hail damage but still road legal.
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Nanocom Evo II (also sold)

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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Yes
I calculated that to remove 89.3 % of the original ATF you would need 4 exchanges , each being a 3L dump & fill. Jules

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MotionInc



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^^^^^, soooo, 1 more drain and fill and I am on all newer stuff even though the 4 prior changes were staggered. Thumbs Up Laughing

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