What market is this new Defender aimed at? I honestly think LR will miss out with this one. I was out shooting last Wednesday and the vehicles included Toyota/Isuzu/Mitsubishi truck cabs plus Polaris and Kawasaki mules. Will any of these owners go back to an over priced Defender, I doubt it. 11 GS Bali Blue
07 GS FL2. Usually muddy. Gone
Numerous LRs since 1963

A lot of those owners didn’t buy the last one. The Defender lost out to the Japs a long time ago, better equipped, more comfort, reliable and cheaper. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

We’re all so concerned about who it will appeal too. It will sell big time that’s all JLR are interested in being a company they want to shift more units that the predecessor did. Oh and here is a picture of it’s 22” alloy.

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So what are you drinking tonight then Ed. ?

 FL2 now gone and have a couple of items left for sale:-

Brodit active iPhone holder + Brodit dash clip,
Bluetooth Music Streaming Module.

Man down with man flu.  MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

A SWB running on 22” rims and the big mud flaps  21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

MartynB wrote:

I’ve said this before , the Defender was never a cheap vehicle . I bought my last new one in 1997 a County 90 station wagon. With a few bits of chequer plate and a tow bar on it I think it was a few shillings shy of £23000 list . By the wonder of the internet that is apparently £41,000 today . Of course now said new Defender will have all the usual electronic gizmos , and be subject to whatever Dick Turpin tax the government has added over the years . The cheapest vehicles in the showroom then were 90 vans at about £15000 -+ VAT , by today’s standards they were laughable .

So yes it’s going to be a pricey vehicle . When you look at the list prices of the nicely specced Toyota / Isuzu/ VW. etc king cab pickup trucks they do look appealing , that’s until you add on the VAT which of course private users have to pay . Then you will find nicely specced versions of those vehicles poking into the £40,000 + bracket

One of the ironies is that, whatever price we would previously have been asked to pay for it, it could also now be subject to tariffs when it comes in as an imported car. Buy it with an Ingenium engine (the most likely) and it will even be subject to two sets of tariffs! This could add several thousands to the price

If you can't afford a LR post Brexit:

Post Brexit affordable 4wd offroad vehicle! https://www.bajaboard.com.au/bajaboard-g4x

& trailer for people caravaning on the smallest of budgets! https://www.electric-skateboard.builders/t...oard/15818 Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

If you put in 235/85 R16 vs 245/50 R22 you can see how stupid these tyres are!

https://tiresize.com/tyre-size-calculator/ Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

Or you could make your own out of old wheelie bins

 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

It will be sold in USA
 MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
MY15 Xenon Headlight Conversion

MY17 RRS SVR - Estoril Blue Cirrus/Ebony 🪣💺’s

LRNut "It will be sold in USA"


What I think you meant to say was ....

"It will be sold in USA ...... FIRST "

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UK customers to take delivery in 2020

https://media.landrover.com/en-gb/news/201...s-starting 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

It does seem to have certain attributes that make it appealing, it looks like a LR and it has a square load entrance making it a utility vehicle, all it really needs is a split tailgate  my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
2012 HSE SD4 In Orkney Grey now gone, best car ever.

So it’s a rejigged full fat Discovery 4 then  FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current