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frawdder



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Scotland 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Santorini Black

Both sound a bit steep for MY13 GS. They were heavily discounted down from £27K then. I was offered a new MY13 GS manual with 18" alloys, spoiler, spare and privacy for £26K without haggling. Guide price is around £20K from main dealer now. Prices drop sharply around this time of year for 4x4 and some dealers are slow to drop prices.

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dorsetfreelander



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

Just been talking to my son, he uses his FL2 for work as an agronomist where he uses his FL2 on farms and motorways doing about 25k+ miles/year. A number of his colleagues (all use FL2s) had a discussion this week about what to replace them with in the next year or two. Everyone agrees that the FL2 is brilliant at what it does on and off road (reliability aside). However, the consensus seems to be that the DS is just too plush and expensive for a working car and without a spare wheel not really a viable option (you can't call the AA out if you are miles off road in the middle of a field somewhere). People are starting to look elsewhere (Toyota, Jeep, Mitsubishi) and hoping that the new Defender might be an option if it's better on road than the current one. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Post #263965 16th May 2015 10:50 pm
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Pedro



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England 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Galway Green

My thoughts exactly, although I won't be buying a Jeep or another Toyota. As such, I am also hoping the new defender will have a variant that is better on the road. In the meantime, going to keep the FL2. FL2 HSE Auto Galway Green
Evoque SD4 Auto Blue.
FL1 HSE TD4 Manual Black - Gone.
RR Classic V8 EFI - Gone

Post #264018 17th May 2015 5:08 pm
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Mav71



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Stornoway Grey

From what I have seen within LR, don't get your hopes up for a new Defender that could be a comfortable replacement for your Freelander 2.

LR will be replacing the Defender with a new 4x4 to be a more modern version of the outgoing one. The key decision is not to alienate the Typical defender

Freelander prices have risen as new customers to the brand have never considered a Freelander, have gone to a dealer to look at the DS and are finding it expensive as the lower end models of the DS are yet to be launched and the. Look at late Freelanders.

Until the lower range DS's are launched and on the second hand market, Freelander 2 prices will remain strong. After this point, you will see the natural slide in values of the Freelander 2. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Post #264022 17th May 2015 5:51 pm
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RogB



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England 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

The lower price range DS are set to come in September, with the lower output Ingenium and 5 seats (and possibly proper spare wheel) but will still start at a shade over 30k. Still expensive for the potential FL2 person.

At the LR event I went to on Saturday, I was told that they cant get enough FL2 on their forecourt the demand for them is that high. (at that point the salesman didnt know that I was an existing FL2 driver)

I wasnt overly impressed with the DS either. Confused

Post #264077 18th May 2015 9:12 am
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Nick Jan



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Stornoway Grey
shame!

Mav71 wrote:
From what I have seen within LR ……….. The key decision is not to alienate the Typical defender


Shame they didn't apply that test to the DS design ….. not to alienate the typical Freelander owner!! Razz Life is not a dress rehearsal!

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Badger1970



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Nick Jan wrote:
Shame they didn't apply that test to the DS design ….. not to alienate the typical Freelander owner!! Razz


Have Land Rover or anyone working in an official capacity for them actually announced that the DS is a direct replacement for the Freelander? NO! The DS is part of the new Discovery family, and on launch just happened to share the same power plant, nothing more than that.

It's only the lazy dickhead Journo's at certain publications that have decided that it is....wait and see what's around the corner, and you *might* just be pleasantly surprised. Foraging near Gaydon....
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MY13 HSE Lux SD4, Baltic Blue - current, 30,000> miles without fault
MY12 HSE 2.2 SD4, Sumatra Black - gone after 10 months/43,000 fault-free miles

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dunkley201



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Since LR have said they are dropping the name Freelander ......Looking forward to the "Defender Lite" Rolling Eyes 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

Post #264185 19th May 2015 9:00 am
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RogB



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England 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

It might be called the Discovery Utility to complete the family ???? Laughing

Post #264186 19th May 2015 9:10 am
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Nick Jan



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Stornoway Grey

Badger1970 wrote:

Have Land Rover or anyone working in an official capacity for them actually announced that the DS is a direct replacement for the Freelander? NO! ….. The DS is part of the new Discovery family, and on launch just happened to share the same power plant, nothing more than that.
It's only the lazy dickhead Journo's at certain publications that have decided that it is....wait and see what's around the corner, and you *might* just be pleasantly surprised.


I think you'll find that many LR franchised dealers did say exactly that … "The DS is the Freelander 2 replacement, and its launch coincides with the closing down of Freelander 2 production" We didn't make it up!

I hope you're right and the original leaked LR models development plan does indeed give us a new LR model that does better match many FL2 owners needs, where the DS doesn't. Razz Life is not a dress rehearsal!

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Badger1970



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Yes, well Dealers, as we all know, talk out of the back of their proverbial harris. It just so happened that the DS used the lines left available up at Halewood that the FL2 vacated when production ceased. No-one from JLR has directly said that the DS is the FL2 replacement, because it isn't!

As mentioned previously, the motoring press have decided that it is. It's not. Foraging near Gaydon....
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MY12 HSE 2.2 SD4, Sumatra Black - gone after 10 months/43,000 fault-free miles

Post #264273 20th May 2015 8:21 am
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Landiroamer



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United Kingdom 2015 Freelander 2 TD4_e SE Manual Orkney Grey

Exactly my dealer said when I went in to buy a new Freelander 2, why dont you wait and get a new DS its really the FL3, its not quite a direct replacement, but then did they say that about the FL1 when it went to the FL2 because they arent really direct replacements either, and would it have been better to call the FL2 a Discovery Sport back then? considering how much bigger it was??

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Stuartc



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Australia 2015 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Aintree Green

Exactly!!!!!
Back then it was all about getting bigger!
Markets changed, its about efficiency and getting smaller is now the direction.
This should be evident now! Just take a look around the market! MY15
Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
Surround Camera System
InControl Apps soon to be replaced with CarPlay (WIP)
Meridian Premium Surround Sound
Digital Audio Broadcast
Timed Climate
Cruise ECO Data
Follow Me Home Reverse
Extra Features Menu
Picture In Motion
4x4i screen (WIP)
Digital Broadcast TV
Meridian Rear Media with WIFI
Factory Powered Tailgate
Blind Spot Monitoring (BSM)
Reverse Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA)
Electrochromatic Wing Mirrors (WIP)

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Nick Jan



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Stornoway Grey
yes well ….

Yes well …. I will be happy to buy another LR vehicle, when they do produce a replacement for the FL2!

Still seems odd to me to cease production of FL2 if there is no actual replacement vehicle for some while yet! Rolling Eyes Life is not a dress rehearsal!

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LR2inTheUSA



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United States 2010 LR2 i6 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

Yanwoo wrote:
Not particularly evident in the US market tho




Tis' true. Embarassed The US market does not appreciate the Freelander2/LR2 vehicle. Often confused (at a glance) by the masses with the ancient Ford Escape. Rolling Eyes Not certain it ever got over the Freelander 1's poor reputation either. It was also only ever offered in relatively posh petrol trims which IMO is at odds with its off road capabilities. At the end of ski season this year my girl friend asked me what it was! Laughing

The Evoque has done much better. Cool Wait...you get 17in steel wheel options, diesel engines, manual transmissions, cloth seats, optional sunroofs and G4 kit! Censored

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