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DanEmil



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Huruit din spate de la masina, am crezut ca este un rulment la o roata, dar masina huruie mai tare cand este in sarcina.
Am fost la un service, concluzia: huruitul vine din grup (ulei este la diferential).
Ce poate fi ?
Exista ceva kit de reparatie ?
Ceva de genu:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-LR2-Rea...0924042450

Post #201827 3rd Oct 2013 2:07 pm
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ionutzs



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Fix de problema asta m-am lovit saptamana trecuta. La mine huruitul aparea intermitent, asa ca am cumparat doar rulmentul din poza ta, alaturi de toate garniturile si simeringurile necesare. Dupa ce am cumparat rulmentul original (KOYO) din poza respectiva, i-am verificat sarcina statica si dinamica pe site-ul producatorului si am comparat cu alti rulmenti disponibili pe piata. Am vazut ca rulmentul KOYO sta mai bine dpdv al sarcinii decat SKF dar, surprinzator, rulmentul Schaeffler / FAG are valori cam cu 10% mai bune! Eu am dat 230lei pe rulmentul LandRover(KOYO) iar pe rulmentul FAG, 45 lei (30206 - A ) Smile

Date tehnice rulment Schaeffler Sarcina dinamica: 43,5 kN Sarcina Statica: 48 kN
Date tehnice rulment SKF Sarcina dinamica: 40.2 kN Sarcina Statica: 44 kN

Dar, desfacand diferentialul, am vazut ca toti rulmentii erau cumva afectati (role arse sau uzate). Asa ca am cumparat toti rulmentii de la Schaeffler / FAG. Maine masina ar trebui sa fie gata. Notez maine codurile rulmentilor si le trec aici, intrucat am pierdut biletul pe care notasem. '69 Capri 3000GT
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Post #203209 15th Oct 2013 6:17 pm
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alex_pescaru



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Multumim mult pentru raspunsul detaliat si documentat si asteptam si codurile! Thumbs Up

Verificati sa aveti si Q106 efectuat (cei cu cutii automate), deoarece mai reduce si el acel static load prin update-ul pe care-l face si pe Haldex...
Cei cu cutii manuale sa aveti ultimul update pe partea de Haldex.

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Post #203212 15th Oct 2013 6:33 pm
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DanEmil



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Ms. pt raspuns,eu am cumparat rulmentul cu 185 lei.
Sapt. viitoare sper sa desfac si eu diferentialul, mi-ar fi de mare ajutor sa ma ajuti cu, codurile de la ceilalti rulmenti, sa pot sa ii cumpar din timp, sa fiu pregatit sa ii inlocuiesc toti.
Uleiul l-ai inlocuit (haldex/diferential) ?

Post #203279 16th Oct 2013 6:34 am
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ionutzs



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Acestea sunt codurile rulmentilor din diferential (si producatorul aferent):


    30206 A - FAG - primul rulment al pinionului de atac;

    HM88649 + HM88610 - TIMKEN - al 2-lea rulment al pinionului de atac; camasa interioara + exterioara;

    32008 XA - FAG (sunt necesare 2 bucati);
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Post #204185 22nd Oct 2013 1:29 pm
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DanEmil



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Mii de multumiri Very Happy

Post #204195 22nd Oct 2013 2:07 pm
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irinel_g



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Si la mine se aude un huruit din spate si pana acum am crezut ca e un rulment dar se pare ca huruitul vine de la diferential. Oare cat o costa toata tarasenia asta din buletinul de service ?

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irinel_g



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Si apropo, cum se face Q106?

Post #204351 23rd Oct 2013 7:34 pm
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alex_pescaru



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Este un update, o rescriere a softului de la cutiile automate si de la Haldex.
Te conectezi pe portul de diagnoza de la masina cu o interfata specifica si cu softul de la ei (SDD) si ii dai sa execute actiunea de service, care va face automat update-ul.

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DanEmil



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Poti cumpara numai 30206 A(LR023441) - FAG - primul rulment al pinionului de atac(aprox 50 ron).
Sau poate gasesti rulmenti si semeringuri pe alti producatori mai ieftin.
Piesele din tabel sunt pe original fara ultimele 3 randuri.

Post #204393 24th Oct 2013 7:11 am
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ionutzs



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Aici puteti gasi procedura de strangere a pinionului de atac:
https://www.freel2.com/gallery/albums/user...ential.pdf
Procedura de umplere cuplaj inter-axial Haldex:
https://www.freel2.com/gallery/albums/user...HALDEX.pdf
Procedura de umplere diferential punte spate:
https://www.freel2.com/gallery/albums/user...ential.pdf '69 Capri 3000GT
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irinel_g



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Ai reusit sa le schimbi? Se poate face in orice service sau trebuie sa mergi la reprezentanta deoarece vad ca iti trebuie niste scule dedicate?

Post #205388 31st Oct 2013 11:13 pm
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ionutzs



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Le-am schimbat. Operatiunea se poate face si fara acele scule speciale. '69 Capri 3000GT
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dorumarcatoru



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Cum e acest zgomot mai exact? Azi mi-a aparut destul de brusc un zgomot in dreapta spate, ceva ca o frecatura cu o tonalitate usor metalica, ritmica, apare si in sarcina si in decelerare. Eu ma gandesc la rulmentul de la roata, placutele sunt verificate si nu sunt uzate.

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DanEmil



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La mine sunetul este ceva de genu cum se auzeau autobuzele alea vechi.
Ridica masina pe elevator, porneste masina baga in viteza si asculta de unde vine zgomotul, grup sau roata.

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