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Huang



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Pinging Noise

I'm new and not sure if anyone posted similar before.

I've had my i6 for 4 months, it was a 5k demo.

From the beginning I've noticed intermittent pinging noise from the engine when accelerating. Usually in the low revs. This usually occurs 30% of the time.

Has anyone experienced the same thing?

Post #50609 20th Nov 2009 8:06 am
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Is that pinging or Pinking? Does it do it more under load?


Driving a diesel its difficult to hear any noise over the engine Laughing There's always a way forward!

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Under hard acceleration, mostly on low RPMs, a little knocking/pinging its relatively normal.

It's the sound of the detonations inside cylinders.
It could be because of the low octane fuel or because or a defective tuned advance.
But since your engine (i6) has two detonation (knocking) sensors, it's hard to believe that both have problems.
The engine ECU should automatically retard the advance based on the info from knocking sensors.

First, try a different type of fuel, with a higher octane rating. For sure it will be better.

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_knocking
http://www.zhome.com/ZCMnL/PICS/detonation/detonation.html

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Huang



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Thanks for the feedback.

I alternate between 91 and 95 fuel. I'll try 98 at my next fill up to see if this makes any difference.

The dealer said running 91 is fine.

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Would have thought 95 octane would be the normal these days - does anybody else still have 91 or even 98 available Question

In any case I would suggest you check FIRST before using 98 octane to see if it is OK to use Thumbs Up 2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
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alex_pescaru



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AndyC wrote:
In any case I would suggest you check FIRST before using 98 octane to see if it is OK to use Thumbs Up

The engine is running in closed loop control.
So, it's OK, don't worry. Always is allowed to function with higher octane because of the antiknocking properties of the higher octane fuel. The higher the octane, the lower the chance for detonations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/MSD/docs/pdf/gas_octane_guide.pdf

Lower octane is a problem, because it create those kind of "destructive" problems (the ones that you heard).
"Destructive" because the burning is uncontrolable and flame burning front speed is ten times greater than on a normal burn. That's why that pinging sound - flame front hitting cilynder walls and make them vibrate.

And one more thing.
The results will shown after a few full tanks of new fuel, because of the mixing of old fuel with new one.
Or at least when you will put low octane fuel, put a dose of additive for improving octane.

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Whenever we've had petrol Land Rovers, usually V8 Discovery and Range Rovers, we found it's usually cheaper, and never anymore expensive, to use higher octane fuel, even though it is more expensive at the pump, as you get better fuel consumption. BP ultimate, Shell V Power, and Sainsburys Ultimate unleaded were what we used. It's also the same story on the bike, but I use it for the performance more than economy Mr. Green Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
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