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Drud66



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Hi there folks - Lots of good advice on here - However this guy really nails it - l just did exactly what he said and it was an absolute piece of cake
Cheers

Post #410795 30th Jul 2021 4:43 am
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Personally I'd rather stick a large syringe onto the end of the plastic pipe rather than risk inhaling diesel/fumes. Jules

Post #410807 30th Jul 2021 9:30 am
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alex_pescaru



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Good method for when you are on the outback, but only works because the temperature valve is opened at ambient temperatures and the air on the filter is sucked by him, through the thermo valve.
Otherwise, all the air on the filter will need to go through the fuel system (pump and rail) until is sucked out, which is not an ideal thing.

Post #410813 30th Jul 2021 10:25 am
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rambling rollie



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Finally plucked up the courage to try this myself..
Used the "pull the fuel through" method as Alex has said, and it all worked out well!
(except for a few 'Murphy' moments - like dropping a nut and needing to remove the sump cover/plate to retrieve it)

Post #432601 20th May 2023 3:43 pm
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j00ppis



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alex_pescaru wrote:
Don't know why LR and users try to push - with the help of the hand pump - the fuel from the tank through the entrance of the filter up until the hand pump hardens...
Indeed, the filter will be filled, but in the same time, as the pump hardens - which is the sole sign that the filter is full - there is a big pressure built up on the intake, which, when the hand pump is disconnected, will gush in all directions and make a mess.

I've always put the filter in place and connect the 1, 2 and 3 connections (in the picture below). In the outlet port (4), I connect the hand pump, who's output I put into a small jar.
Then I use the hand pump to "suck" fuel from the tank through the filter as the car's pump does, until the filter is full and the fuel is coming out of the hand pump, into the jar.
This is the natural way to do, exactly as the car's pump does.
At the end, the hand pump disconnection (from 4th port) is without any spill and the sole thing to do is to connect the last hose (the one with the fuel temp sensor) to the 4th filter connector. Clean, easy and quick and the car starts always, without any problems or air bubbles in the pipes.



Changed yesterday Fuel filter, brand Coopers.

Removed old filter
Installed new filter, connected all 3 hoses back. Attached hand priming pump to HP pump outlet on filter, Number 4. as alex

it didnt prime it goodenough.
Took filter off and filled it full from HP pump outlet

then my friend, car mechanic step in
eventually needed to loosen HP pump lines litle open to get it bleed while starting car, and adding some startspray to air inlet manifold.

Personaly i dont like to start car and dry run HP pump


Next filter change i will buy electrical fuel pump, full the filter and connect all hoses back but trying to bleed it straight from To tank connection, and maybe use litle syringe to put diesel in HP house line and then give first start attempt.

Post #437087 16th Nov 2023 8:44 am
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BossBob



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Does the Cooper branded fuel filter have the temperature controlled circuit that is in the Purflux filters?

Post #437088 16th Nov 2023 9:04 am
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j00ppis



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On this topic shows that Coopers filters are acualy made by purflux

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic39570.html

" I contacted Craddocks and they confirmed that the Coopers filter is actually made by Purflux who make the genuine LR boxed part."

Post #437089 16th Nov 2023 10:25 am
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Wonderdust



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Heinz make beans for other companies but dont use as good as ingredients in those produced for own brand beans, Purflux may make the filter but does it include all the bits as in the genuine filter?

Post #437091 16th Nov 2023 11:11 am
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jules



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My view is that as you're DIYing it and saving a load of dosh, you might as well not skimp on parts where quality is so important ie fuel filter. Jules

Post #437092 16th Nov 2023 1:54 pm
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jules



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j00ppis wrote:


it didnt prime it goodenough.


Maybe try the method that JLR recommend next time. Laughing

Can you be absolutely certain that inside of the hand balloon is free of micro particles/dust?
To my mind the pull method risks sending "muck" up to the HP pump and injectors -slight risk maybe but potentially disastrous.
The push method uses the filter to prevent any muck inside the hand balloon getting to the injectors. Jules

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Bobupndown



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I use one of these pumps and suck diesel through port 4.




Takes 3 or 4 strokes. Removing pipe each time, brings diesel up to the port and fills the filter completely. Re connect the pipe and it starts with little more cranking than normal.
Must have changed it 3 or 4 times using this method. Never had any issues. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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Post #437095 16th Nov 2023 2:38 pm
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Grimdog



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I also use an oil extractor for the fuel filter, and the transfer box and the rear diff also for the brakes, originally bought mine to drain the oil from my speedboat, but have found so many more used for it.

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cht...lsrc=aw.ds

I have collected various lengths of silicone tube over the years and can adapt it to fit most situations.

Post #437098 16th Nov 2023 4:49 pm
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Aveling



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I've always submerged the filter in clean diesel until the bubbles stop.
Fit, couple up the pipes - bingo, starts first time.

Post #437099 16th Nov 2023 4:49 pm
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Jack frost



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I am with this guy 100% Thumbs Up

Post #437100 16th Nov 2023 6:41 pm
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Nodge68



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Aveling wrote:
I've always submerged the filter in clean diesel until the bubbles stop.
Fit, couple up the pipes - bingo, starts first time.


That's not the best way, as there only needs to be a microscopic particle of dirt to find its way into one of the seven 0.143mm diameter injector spray holes in a injector for it to be blocked, resulting in a requirement for a replacement injector. There's a reason the fuel is pulled through the filter, as only filtered fuel is then passed through the injection system. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Soon to be sold.
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Post #437104 16th Nov 2023 7:27 pm
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