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Wigbo60



Member Since: 26 Jul 2021
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Thanks everyone for the really helpful advice. I guess I just need to really confirm my priorities.

Post #410820 30th Jul 2021 1:08 pm
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Paul4751



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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Alaska White

People talk about the better MPG of manual...but that is a minor cost of owning a Freelander. If depreciation is say £2k-3k per annum, then mpg saving from auto to manual for average 10k per annum is only £250. Is that really going to persuade you on the decision of man v auto? My opinion?....been driving autos since 1976..would NEVER have a manual. That's through 3 Range Rovers, and 5 Freelanders. In one of the RRs I did 275,000 miles in 11 years with a 3 speed auto box, which many mechanics described as "unburstable" !

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Lightwater



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Australia 2013 Freelander 2 2.0T SE Auto Fuji White

Pray that you get 2/3 of FA extra when you eventually sell it!

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Enjoy relaxed driving for the entire period you own the car.

You are dead a long time. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Post #411881 30th Aug 2021 11:17 am
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yovhannes



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Re: Newbie question - automatic or manual

Wigbo60, if you are asking then it's better to have automatic Smile

Post #411882 30th Aug 2021 11:29 am
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blueboy



Member Since: 20 Aug 2017
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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey

I went from manual TD4 (2007) in March this year to an automatic SD4 (2014), initially I was a bit unsure of the auto & if I really liked it, there were days I thought mmm I think I made a mistake & should have bought a manual.

Five months on & now a bit more used to the auto I am more than happy with it & find it a nicer drive. Fuel consumption is about the same, my dash MPG on the 2007 was always around 33 around town , my 2014 is currently showing 31.8 so very little in it. I am not a heavy footed driver.

Don't particularly like the auto car creeping while stationary & often put it in neutral if I have to wait a minute or 2, if I hold the creep on the brake I think that something must be wearing out but thats probably just me, a bit like riding the clutch on a gradient to hold the car which must be wearing the clutch drive plate.

I still drive my van which is manual & have no difficulty getting out of one & into the other. 2014 Freelander 2 HSE Orkney Grey.

I keep pushing the escape button but I am still here.

Post #411885 30th Aug 2021 2:35 pm
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

"if I hold the creep on the brake I think that something must be wearing out but thats probably just me, a bit like riding the clutch on a gradient to hold the car which must be wearing the clutch drive plate."

Not really . In FL2 autobox the torque convertor replaces the clutch in the manula gearbox. When stationary in an auto FL2 then only thing "wearing/slipping" is the ATF inside the torque convertor - it doesn't wear out like a overheating/slipping clutch does. Everything downstream of the torque convertor is stationary, so not wearing.

However just like a clutch the torque convertor converts the friction into heat. You can get a warning message about the autobox getting too hot (not seen it on my FL2 but my TD5 Discovery did once when towing off-road). Jules

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riverblanche



Member Since: 11 Apr 2019
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England 2013 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Orkney Grey

Hi,

have you not decided yet Question Laughing

there seems to be a large dose of bias to the replies as out of about 15 the 12 or so that have Autos have all said "Auto" Whistle

I will still sit on the fence (and I am very happy with my Manual) and say its what you like the best and what you want to use it for, there is No Right answer (or wrong one)

the forum has 17253 members so 15 replies is not even a 0.1% response (manmaths strikes again Exclamation )

look at some, drive some, buy the best example you can, which could be an auto or a manual

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blueboy



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey

jules wrote:
"if I hold the creep on the brake I think that something must be wearing out but thats probably just me, a bit like riding the clutch on a gradient to hold the car which must be wearing the clutch drive plate."

Not really . In FL2 autobox the torque convertor replaces the clutch in the manula gearbox. When stationary in an auto FL2 then only thing "wearing/slipping" is the ATF inside the torque convertor - it doesn't wear out like a overheating/slipping clutch does. Everything downstream of the torque convertor is stationary, so not wearing.

However just like a clutch the torque convertor converts the friction into heat. You can get a warning message about the autobox getting too hot (not seen it on my FL2 but my TD5 Discovery did once when towing off-road).


Thanks for that info Jules. will not be so bothered now sitting at the lights holding the creep on the brake. 2014 Freelander 2 HSE Orkney Grey.

I keep pushing the escape button but I am still here.

Post #411917 31st Aug 2021 6:36 pm
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