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izzypop



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Firenze Red
SD4 AUTO BOX

I am having 2 issues with my 60 plate hse auto 130k that maybe related
When cold in normal drive mode with very little throttle it will not change from first to second untill nearlr 3000 revs, but is ok once warm.
Also when put in reverse it is reluctant to move with out higher revs than normal
Am i going to be looking at a replacement gearbox
TIA

Post #389281 1st Apr 2020 11:09 am
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Bobupndown



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

Has it had a gearbox oil change?, that would be my starting point. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
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Post #389290 1st Apr 2020 11:36 am
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izzypop



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Firenze Red

Thank you

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SeeFive



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

The not changing up when cold thing seems to be fairly normal in our fleet. Both the Merc SLC (9 speed auto) and the SD4 both hang on to gears longer when cold. Leaving the little cull de sac we live in with the merc, I have to flip a paddle for 2nd as it will stay in first all the way out at embarrassingly high revs.

Haven’t got the issue you have going backwards though.

Post #389302 1st Apr 2020 2:34 pm
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red
Re: SD4 AUTO BOX

izzypop wrote:
I am having 2 issues with my 60 plate hse auto 130k that maybe related
When cold in normal drive mode with very little throttle it will not change from first to second untill nearlr 3000 revs, but is ok once warm.
Also when put in reverse it is reluctant to move with out higher revs than normal
Am i going to be looking at a replacement gearbox
TIA


I changed my autobox ATF at 40K miles (5 years old car) - there was a noticeable improvement in the timeliness and smoothness of the gear changes - I would definitely recommend changing the ATF as has already been suggested. Jules

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dorsetfreelander



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

You haven't told us if this has suddenly started happening or is the car new to you etc? My FL1 auto used to do exactly this and it was programmed to stay in low gear until warmed up a little. I used to put it into manual for the first half a mile or so. My 14 reg SD4 54k miles doesn't do it at all though. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Post #389355 2nd Apr 2020 10:38 am
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izzypop



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Firenze Red

Hi
I have done 100,000k in the car and the problem is only been like this for the last 1000k
Regards

Post #389359 2nd Apr 2020 10:58 am
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SeeFive



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

Sorry, with hindsight my post may not have been too sensible to make as I haven’t experienced a low miler Freelander. I bought mine (60 reg) with over 100kmiles on it, and it has always been just like the Merc, which has behaved like that from new.

Sorry if my post added confusion. Those are also the only 2 autos I have had, so that is my total experience with what I thought was just a normal auto warm up feature across manufacturers.

Best listen to the others Smile

Post #389361 2nd Apr 2020 11:24 am
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RogB



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England 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

gearbox flush and fluid/filter change, I think about £250 give or take...….. if you can find anywhere to do it at the moment


anyone remember that wheeler dealers episode when the dodgy Brewer bought a Porsche Boxter for £1000 with a flaky gearbox but apparently fixed it with a fluid and filter change ??

Post #389375 2nd Apr 2020 1:22 pm
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dunkley201



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

The filter is inaccessible without removal of the gearbox. Just change the ATF 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Its a DIY job if you dont mind a bit of mess.

One method is sequential draining and refilling with new ATF to dilute the old ATF to very small %. I did it this way. No special tools needed.
JLR dont make refilling to the correct level easy though as there is no dipstick or side fill plug. The drain and level plug are combined into a single 2in1 plug.

Just in case you are not familar with changing the ATF on autoboxes - when you drain the ATF a significant amount remains within the torque convertor. You cannot drain all the ATF out in one go, unlike manual gearboxes. Jules

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Mikey



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Scotland 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Baltic Blue

Here is a flush I done just last week. Little over 100k Miles

Even with a stated capacity of 7 litres, we find that the oil is still very dirty, so we flush 12 litres through each time

Here's a few pictures of the procedure Thumbs Up

Forgot to get a picture of the final, finished oils though Rolling Eyes
















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SamFL2008



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Australia 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Hi Mike,
How do you do the oil flash. Do you do it electronically?
Thanks

Post #389706 7th Apr 2020 9:49 am
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AJ918



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Santorini Black

Hi Mikey

What does your garage charge for a ATF flush on a Freelander 2 and what fluid do you use in a 2014 model?

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Mikey



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Scotland 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Baltic Blue

SamFL2008 wrote:
Hi Mike,
How do you do the oil flash. Do you do it electronically?
Thanks


Black machine in the middle Thumbs Up



Connects into the gearbox oil cooler, measures the pressure and flow of the oil coming out the gearbox, and automatically replaces it with the corresponding new oil. Effectively, like a dialysis Thumbs Up

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