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tony g



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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey
LR2 Fuel gauge up and down

Hello All
I am a new member and have not long had a really nice hse sd4 , I have had a couple of days when the fuel gauge has gone from full ( when the tank is full) to half with the corespnding lowering of range.

I have read all of the threads on the issue and what is required to fix it possibly. What I would like to know is if anyone on the forums has changed the fuel sender/s and if they have, did you have the wiring issue done at the same time. I have a good local garage that is willing to change the sender or even both if I have to, but thought it would be a waste of time if I did this and then the wiring was still causing a problem.

I would have a go at the wiring myself if I could do it from the inspection panel under the rear seat but it does not look like that will be a possibility given the space.

Any replies would be welcome thanks

Tony Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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Chuckalicious



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Santorini Black

I had this when I got my FL2 as well. Was done under warranty and the wiring mod was done. Would make sense to do the mod if you can. Learned to drive in 2011.
Bought a Micra - great little car
"Upgraded" to Kia Sportage - hated it
Proper upgrade to FL2 TD4 GS 60 reg Facelift - tailgate paint issues, fuel gauge rewire, transfer box failure at 36k miles

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IanMetro



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Fuji White

Fuel Gauge wiring is a known problem. It needs attention at fuel tank end and there is a Technical Bulletin and fix for it.

TECHNICAL BULLETIN
LTB00566v6
04 JUL 2014

Get the Wiring Fixed ASAP.

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic30934.ht...+technical

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic31656.html?highlight=fuel+gauge

Plenty of information on forum

https://www.freel2.com/forum/search.php?se...rch_time=0 FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 46k+ miles)

Post #382125 2nd Dec 2019 11:03 pm
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tony g



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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey
Thanks for the responses

Thanks to those who have responded, I will look into the links attached.
I am not too happy to have to change the pump sender unit unless it really needs doing but I will at a push.

My biggest issue is that if the unit is removed/replaced and the garage I use can't do the wiring mod I am going to be left with a huge bill from LR to do that at a later date if the pump unit does not solve the issue. How difficult is the wiring mod to do. I am more than capable of fitting the bullet connectors myself but I dont know if all the wiring inside has to be done with the pump out and then finished at a point where it is re fitted or not.
I can't imagine the garage is going to be happy with me messing around with the wiring while they try to change the pump unit around me.
Does the second sender also have to come out when changing the main one or is there no known issue with it?

very grateful to all who have replied

Tony

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IanMetro



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Metropolis LE Auto Fuji White

This link has the full method described.

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic12990.ht...;start=120 FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 46k+ miles)

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gasman



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Its not a hard job to do yourself, just time consuming. Fuel tank needs to be taken out so run close to empty before you start, the rest should syphon out when you disconnect the fuel lines. Best to get the special tool to remove the sender unit. Don't get one marked Land Rover as you will be ripped off as usual. I purchased exactly the same tool but marked for Mercedes from eBay for approximately £18. You will require a new o ring and some bolts for fuel tank support that should be replaced.
Back part of the exhaust needs to be removed and the prop shaft disconnected at the haldex and moved to one side but have it supported with an axel stand or similar.
If you follow Divewallys post you can't go wrong. Thumbs Up Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
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tony g



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United Kingdom 2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Hi again and thanks for the links and advice.

I was wondering about the wiring issue, I see from the instructions that you remove the joiner clips etc, and I can see the clip on top of the pump from the access panel in the rear floor.
What I am unsure of is if there are connectors inside the tank. I was sort of assuming that the wires inside fitted onto the internal part of the blue clip socket on top of the pump.

Am I correct in thinking that as long as you note which wire goes to which on the outside and inside of the tank and that you use diesel resistant bullet connectors then you just connect everything together before you finally re fit the pump and sender unit.

If that is the case then how do you seal up the gap where the socket connector went? Having not ever removed a pump etc I am not sure how the wiring is attached from the pump to the loom so please bear with me on this.

Its not like the old days when you just opened the boot and undid a few screws and hey presto out came your sender unit.

Thanks to all for the help.

Tony

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gasman



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

From what I remember the problem area is the connection between the two floats. Fuel gets in causes an effy contact which gives you the erratic reading. Note the wires, cut off the connection and solder the ends together, seal with fuel resistant shrink tube. Bit fiddly as not much play but can be done. Thumbs Up Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.

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CED



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Bali Blue

Yes it’s possible ,my local garage that I’ve used for years did mine last year . £140 total bill for labour and connectors. He said there’s no need to remove the tank . I think the crazy prices LR quote to do the job is a con. And they probably fit new sender units that are unnecessary .

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gasman



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

CED. How did the garage do the work without removing the tank? The inspection from under the rear seat does not give the required access. Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.

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