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mdis89



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Cranks but wont start - Fuel Pump Location?

Hello!
So my 2007 freelander 2 is cranking fine, but just wont start. Had a friend think it was the Glow Plugs so had them replaced.

But while putting it back together, i think the fuel lines going to the fuel filter may not have been connected properly. When taking another look a day or so after, it seems like no fuel is even getting to the filter whatsoever.

Does this mean, bad fuel pump? Or air in the system and just needs bleeding/priming?

If its the fuel pump, where is it in the 2007 fl2?

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Dave47



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Pump's located in the tank,
Do a search, there are threads regarding the pump and IIRC a Land Rover fix
for bad connections.
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There are 2 fuel pumps. An electric pump in the tank balancing the two sides of the tank as it straddles the prop shaft. A mechanical pump driven by the cam shaft which supplies filtered high pressure fuel to the injectors. There is no lift pump, you have to make sure that you’ve bled the air out of the feed line and fuel filter using a vacuum pump or you’ll have problems getting combustion. There are instructions for bleeding the filter on the forum if you use the search function.

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mdis89



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Thanks for confirming where both were.

So its unlikely to be a pump problem by the sounds of it.

Should no fuel actually get pushed through the pipes (before it reaches the fuel filter)?

Is it more the mechnical pump that pulls it through (after the filter)?

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BossBob



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There is no push up from the fuel tank pump, that just makes sure that the feed line in the tank is below the fuel level. The high pressure pump at the cam shaft will only suck fuel, doesn’t like air, which is why it is so important that the feed line and fuel filter are bled properly. Also needs to be a good quality fuel filter.

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Re: Cranks but wont start - Fuel Pump Location?

mdis89 wrote:
Hello!
So my 2007 freelander 2 is cranking fine, but just wont start. Had a friend think it was the Glow Plugs so had them replaced.

But while putting it back together, i think the fuel lines going to the fuel filter may not have been connected properly. When taking another look a day or so after, it seems like no fuel is even getting to the filter whatsoever.

Does this mean, bad fuel pump? Or air in the system and just needs bleeding/priming?

If its the fuel pump, where is it in the 2007 fl2?


Most times that the fuel lines are disconnected you will need to bleed the system, do a search on here, there is plenty of info re doing it.

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mdis89



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Manage to bleed through the filter ok, however getting no fuel out of the injectors now...

In regards @alex_pescaru post here
https://www.freel2.com/forum/post292563.html

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You just need to disconnect the return pipe too and pump the way he has done it, but with the pump installed in series with the feed line, until diesel will come out through the return pipe. It's a long process, with a lot of hard hand pumping - because of the small passages in the high pressure pump and the rail return valve -, but at least you will spare the engine of all that useless cranking...


Does that mean to add the primer hand pump on the left hand side of the return pipe on the fuel filter? And suction it through the whole system?

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