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CED



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Lightwater wrote:
Fill up the tank then write down the data (I write on the back of the receipt), then reset the trip meter. You really need to reset if every tank-full as the data will get less & less meaningful.



i have to agree, the figures that the computer come up with bear no relation to a careful monitoring of tank to tank usage. Making sure you put the same amount of fuel in every time , you will be disappointed with the real MPG figure.

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IanMetro



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What sort of MPG difference does using the Air Conditioning (cooling) make.

It seems to be at least 2 -3 MPG in my case, therefore I achieve my best MPG figures in the mild Spring and Autumn temperatures.
i.e. least engine warm-up and zero Ian cooling. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 76k+ miles) (MY2015)

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Here in Canada, they are already selling "winter" gas and the MPG, in our case KPL, are generally worse. The combo of this type of gas, winter tires & the cold, gas consumption generally increases. Now I am still driving on my summer tires for likely another month or so.

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Lightwater



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Ukraine 2013 Freelander 2 2.0T SE Auto Fuji White

On a few of our highways on the straight sections we have a section of 5 km so you can compare the car's odometer to the real milage. With standard sized tyres the car is a far bit under actual distance. If the tyres are worn it is even a greater reduction in distance.

If you have larger tyres your rolling distance is closer to actual distance. You also need to factor in old tyres as they have less tread & thus a shorter rolling diameter. The car is traveling a shorter distance than the computer think's it is.

I think you would need a rolling diameter of about 2.455 metres to match the real distance. If your tyres are worn with about 3.7mm reduction of tread that is about another additional 1% you have to reduce your milage by.

So worn tyres 235/60R18 by 3.7mm = 2.2984mm rolling diameter. So if the car says 40mpg, all you are actually achieving is 37.45mpg.

235/50R20 2.334m
235/60R19 2.327m
235/60R18 2.322m
255/60R18 2.395m
245/70R17 2.433m Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Lightwater



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IanMetro wrote:
What sort of MPG difference does using the Air Conditioning (cooling) make.

It seems to be at least 2 -3 MPG in my case, therefore I achieve my best MPG figures in the mild Spring and Autumn temperatures.
i.e. least engine warm-up and zero Ian cooling.

Last year out of interest I did some long flat stretches of road across Australia also whole tank comparisons with & without air conditioning & was hard pressed to see a difference. I gave up in the end, it's not worth bothering about, this year left the AC on all the time. Also tried with the mirrors in & AC off. There is no difference I could meaningfully see.

A headwind was a different matter altogether. This year I had a 60 kph headwind & fuel consumption was mad so drove at 80 kph like everyone else was across the Nullarbor to bring fuel consumption back to a realistic level.

Click on the map & it tells you the speed & direction of wind, move & zoom to area of interest
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind...-21.67,770 Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

Acoustic insulation ARB TPMS 3xARB air compressors After cooler Air tank On-board OCD pressure air/water cleaning Additional 50L fuel Carpet in doors ABE 2x1kg Waeco 28L modified fridge Battery 4x26ah Solar 120w Victron MPPT 100/20 DC-DC 18amps 175amp jumper plug Awning 6x255/60R18

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CED wrote:
Lightwater wrote:
Fill up the tank then write down the data (I write on the back of the receipt), then reset the trip meter. You really need to reset if every tank-full as the data will get less & less meaningful.


i have to agree, the figures that the computer come up with bear no relation to a careful monitoring of tank to tank usage. Making sure you put the same amount of fuel in every time , you will be disappointed with the real MPG figure.


Whenever possible I fill up at the same place and the same pump, on level ground. Fill to first cut off, wait then press trigger again to cut off and that's it. Calculating on recorded data I get 32 - 34 MPG. That's the same as I was getting with my old KIA sportage 2 L Diesel Auto. It can be improved on obviously if you're doing 60mph on a motorway all the time!

Towing my 1100kg Eriba I still get 28-30 MPG which is nice!

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