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LR NUT



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Scotland 2014 Freelander 2 TD4_e Dynamic Manual Fuji White

I’ve never looked back since I’ve fitted Xenon headlamps. I must have replaced 10 HB3 osram bulbs easily when I had my halogens. Lucky non of mines shattered. MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
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Post #372716 28th May 2019 5:50 pm
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lanryHappy



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South Africa 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red
Re: Osram - Night Breaker - Laser

Vanny wrote:
Well that didn't go very well. Thought I'd give the Osram Night Breaker "Laser" a whirl.

First bulb blew after 3 months, second at about 4 months but in a truly spectacular way. In the (nearly) hundreds of headlight bulbs i've changed, i've never seen one fail so completely.

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The glass still in the headlight unit seemed to be melted into the plastic!

Attempts at contacting Osram have fallen on deaf ears, so they are fully off my purchasing list now. Back to finding the cheapest bulbs available and swapping only once a year.


I had the same issue, my wires even melted. Replaced with LEDs and it's been 6 months without replacing a bulb!

Post #373057 4th Jun 2019 10:07 am
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Bobupndown



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

Any experience / thoughts on these?
I see one Landrover Freelander owner has left a positive review/ Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Post #379133 1st Oct 2019 7:15 pm
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Bobupndown



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/hb3_LED/

Forgot to post the link 🙄 Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Post #379171 2nd Oct 2019 6:03 pm
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Boxbrownie



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Wouldn’t it be better just to use an HID conversion kit, at least the bulb has a true point source in the correct place.
https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/hb3-hids...n-kit.html

I have used these before in several projector lamp systems and had no issues what so ever, passing many MoTs and never getting flashed as the projector lamps have a very sharp cut off area. Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

Post #379177 2nd Oct 2019 7:35 pm
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Grue



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New Zealand 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Sumatra Black

^ ditto what brownie said on HID conversions on other cars. Work really well. Just go for a decent brand rather than the cheapo ebay ones.

Just not sure what the answer is for those of us with the reflector units Rolling Eyes Other than to replace when a donor Freelander2 goes to the garage in the sky?

Post #379179 2nd Oct 2019 7:47 pm
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Vanny



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

Getting annoyed with the very regular failure of big brand bulbs, Night Breakers, I thought I'd just try the cheapest available on Amazon.

BAD IDEA!

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I didnt realise at the time, but the bulb isn't E-marked so isn't road legal, and like so many bad copies, the contacts aren't up to the job, have over heated and melted the Delphi Metri-Pack 280 connector. The connector is rated to 30Amp, so it must have got seriously hot in there! If its not obvious I had to shatter the very brittle bulb housing to get them apart.

So i guess i'm going back to the Sylvia OEM bulbs, seem to have the best longevity/output ratio. I'm also seriously considering putting some additional cooling in, as Visteon should have done, although I suspect this will have an impact on wading depth . . .decisions decisions.

Post #379180 2nd Oct 2019 8:31 pm
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jenks1950



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England 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

I have just had to replace one of my headlight bulbs and was surprised to notice that it had lasted 18 months Bow down

I have in the past experienced problems with some bulbs only lasting a month or so but seem to be getting better results with the Osram Cool Blue Intense

Steve

Post #379191 3rd Oct 2019 9:42 am
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Bobupndown



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/hb3-hids...n-kit.html

They look just the job, unfortunately out of stock atm. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

2014 Orkney grey Freelander SD4 GS.
2004 Zambezi silver Discovery 2 Td5 (Gone)
1963 Surf blue Morris Mini Minor Super de Luxe (my little toy)

Post #379198 3rd Oct 2019 11:39 am
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Vanny



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Santorini Black

Are these very cheap conversion kits actually legal? I'm not so bothered that no one ever gets in to trouble when they are installed, but if they where 'E' type approved then the beam pattern and light output would have been correctly tested. I've seen first hand how awful/dangerous some LED lamps are when put behind headlights not designed for it.

Big name suppliers with fully tested LED lamps usually cost in the hundreds, and still aren't road legal because they can't guarantee compatibility with the housing they go in.

LED are not needs be brighter, and cheapo Chinese bulbs do not always last longer than we burn through HB3s

Post #379201 3rd Oct 2019 12:51 pm
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Boxbrownie



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

No HID conversion kits are legal, as are none of the LED replacement headlamp bulbs, not even for indicators, stop lamps, fog lamps etc etc

The HID bulbs have (should have) the point source area, the filament effectively....in the correct place, they will work just as well regarding beam cut off and spread as an original tungsten type bulb, only giving out a brighter, safer light.

They don’t get E marked and tested because of the cost involved for small suppliers, obviously the manufacturer don’t bother just because they do not need to! Laughing Regards

David

Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me......

Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

Post #379204 3rd Oct 2019 1:22 pm
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Just a driver



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Stornoway Grey

Our dipped headlights are useless, reading this do most just replace the dipped bulbs with night breaker etc or swap the lot. Thanks

Post #416652 4th Jan 2022 12:59 pm
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

The later FL2 had a single halogen bulb HB3 in a projector lens for dipped and main beam. It over heats and so needs replacing often. JLR had an awful fix - a resistance wire to reduce the current to the bulb but it was then even dimmer. The same projector lens is used in the HID lights of higher spec cars. Thus an after market HID kit can successfully replace the HB3 in later cars. I've done this on my 2014 SE tech.
HID kits should not be used in older non-projector lens lights. After market brighter halogen bulbs would be one way to go. I did just that on my previous FL2 which had separate bulbs for main and dipped beams. Jules

Post #416666 4th Jan 2022 6:10 pm
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Just a driver



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Stornoway Grey

Thanks, ours is an 09 fl2 and looks like 2 separate bulbs to me. It was only driving it over Xmas we realised how bad the light were on dipped headlights. It seems to be a straight line of beam across the front and not going off to the left in a triangle. If that makes sense. Cheers

Post #416668 4th Jan 2022 6:32 pm
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I Like Chips



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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Indus Silver

One of my I think it was night breaker 130% more light went a couple of weeks ago they were put in about a year ago, so dug out one of my new ring bog standard ones to replace it. I am surprised that there is no difference in light between the two at least that I can see.

It seems to me light bulbs lose there brightness by degrees over time they must do surely.


Point being does anyone replace their bulbs on a regular time or mileage basis.

Post #416673 4th Jan 2022 8:36 pm
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