Mrs D always likes to pre-order our turkey for collection at Marks's. I get the job of going up at ze allotted time, joining ze queue of bored husbands and shuffling along until our chosen bird is produced. No more! This year she has missed the cut-off date for ordering and we are currently at loggerheads on when to buy. I want to hold my nerve and get one on Christmas Eve for half price but panicky Anniky is saying ”Buy it now, buy it now, there'll be none left soon". She doesn't care if it's frozen either. Just get anything she says!

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When I was a teenager back in the 60's I worked on weekends at a butcher's shop. We sold loads of turkeys of course, but the real money was made on Xmas eve when every year panic stricken people would come rushing in saying "have you got any turkeys left". The shop owner used to have one very large undressed turkey hanging up on a scale in the corner and he would say "I have only got that one over there left and it's organic/free range so more expensive - can you read the weight for me ? " they would invariably buy it whatever the price and he would then say come back in 10 minutes and it will be dressed for you. He would take the turkey out the back where he had a stock of prepared turkeys (which of course weighed differently). As soon as they had collected their overpriced bird the same huge turkey would go back on display waiting for the next victim.

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I wouldn't touch an M&S turkey after the recent disclosure of how they are bred.

they also got 3/5 in the Mail comparison at the weekend.

Iain

Pre ordered Turkey Crown from local butcher, cant see the point of a full bird.

Much prefer family meal betwixt Xmas and New Year when I do a full Sirloin, proper meat.

Why is everything pre-ordered these days? Surely you just order and you certainly don't post-order. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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Took the afternoon off.
We did Lidl, Tesco, Asda, M&S, and Sainsbury's, 7 hours of hell.

Bought a fresh turkey breast that says cook before 26th. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
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Pre ordered Turkey crown, Venison, Suffolk Ham & pigs in blankets from local butcher. Yum FL2 Metropolis, Loire Blue, ebony/ivory

dorsetfreelander wrote:

Why is everything pre-ordered these days? Surely you just order and you certainly don't post-order.

Consider some set P and a binary relation ≤ on P. Then ≤ is a preorder, or quasiorder, if it is reflexive and transitive, i.e., for all a, b and c in P, we have that:

a ≤ a (reflexivity)
if a ≤ b and b ≤ c then a ≤ c (transitivity)
A set that is equipped with a preorder is called a preordered set (or proset).[1]

If a preorder is also antisymmetric, that is, a ≤ b and b ≤ a implies a = b, then it is a partial order.

On the other hand, if it is symmetric, that is, if a ≤ b implies b ≤ a, then it is an equivalence relation.

Equivalently, the notion of a preordered set P can be formulated in a categorical framework as a thin category, i.e. as a category with at most one morphism from an object to another. Here the objects correspond to the elements of P, and there is one morphism for objects which are related, zero otherwise. Alternately, a preordered set can be understood as an enriched category, enriched over the category 2 = (0→1).

A preordered class is a class equipped with a preorder. Every set is a class and so every preordered set is a preordered class.

That might keep you busy

Yes but how does that map onto a polymorphic set like "my chickens have come home to roost" 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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We order our turkey from one of the local butchers. He gets them from a farmer not far away. I will pick it up on Christmas Eve. The wife never liked turkey as a nipper, however she likes the one we get now. Whether it is because it is fresh and free range or not cooked til it's dry like always seemed to be when I was a kid.

I am quite happy to stuff myself on turkey til it comes out my ears. I was quite hacked off when the Mrs gave her sister a load of left overs to take away.

Years ago my dad was always given a fresh turkey by work, two of my brothers and I worked at a chicken processing plant and we were all given a frozen turkey each. As we came from a large family we all went for the biggest we could get. My dad had to buy a new freezer to get the frozen ones into.

Gav.

dorsetfreelander wrote:

Yes but how does that map onto a polymorphic set like "my chickens have come home to roost"

You have chickens not another poultry purveyor

On another note, how long do your leftovers last, I see how far into the New Year the MIL will go on turkey n stuffing sarnies

Back in the 70's a friend of mine got a job with a very old established family owned company with about 100 employees. On his first Xmas he was told that they all have to go to the canteen on the last working day before Xmas to collect their turkeys. When he got there he found a long table set out with over 100 turkeys all set out in decreasing order of weight. The Chairman came in and took the end one (the biggest) and everyone filed in in order of seniority and/or length of service and took their bird, as he had only just joined he had the smallest and didn't qualify for a packet of stuffing. He left a few months later. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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We get a bird from a local farmer, well mother does , then she precooks it at her house and brings it to ours in a wheelbarrow


As a kid a whole Christmas day was wasted when my Dad watched a tv chef cut the legs off a turkey before cooking, So he decided this was good. Mother didnt agree and took to the bottle, ended up in bed at 3pm. ( mother was a chef before us kids came along)
We have a good laugh about that now, but nobody mentioned it for the first 10 years

Apparently it was me and my sisters fault for being children


We still never mention the time when father decided to try the chicken in a duck in a turkey thing. or the time moth forgot to turn the oven on. happy days

Or the time my cousin (in her late teens) came for Christmas tea very drunk and told everyone to F off
or when we had a water outage for 5 days over Christmas and had to collect buckets of water from two miles away so we could even flush the toielt At work
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We have given our staff a £500 bonus, one ungrateful person has told someone, not knowing they are a friend of mine, that it's not very much
Wait till next year

Some people are just ungrateful. I had never received a bonus in 23 years in my previous job but was well chuffed this year as my new company gave a nice bonus to us. The turkey I mentioned earlier that I got as a sprog was well received and we could get the size we wanted.

Gav.