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On the same topic I don't understand why there is an option for sidelights when the car is in motion, side lights are **ck all use to anyone

I disagree with their being no need for sidelights I often travel on the motorways just before dusk and find full headlights can be very distracting if it's not very dark....just my thoughts!

They are also better to use in thick fog in conjunction with the fog lights...

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They are a useful feature on the car, but certainly not infallible. I have come to accept that just occasionally I have to do something myself!

It's not about laziness I'd sooner have them coming on early, i.e. too sensitive, rather than too late. Better to fit the car with permanent daylight 'running lights' and be seen all of the time, than an auto setting that's not sensitive enough. Was GS TD4 Auto, Privacy, Santorini with Tundra & Alpaca, Cold Climate Pack. Traded for Discovery Sport HSE Auto.

I think that, often, it is the perception of how light or dark it actually is that causes the "problem". The human eye is brilliant at adjusting to a large range of ambient light conditions without you actually realising.
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I disagree with their being no need for sidelights I often travel on the motorways just before dusk and find full headlights can be very distracting if it's not very dark....just my thoughts!

They are also better to use in thick fog in conjunction with the fog lights...

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In Norway (and all of Scandinavia I guess) it is the law that decides what lights can be used and when

1). Headlights must be used at all times while the car is in motion - come on automatically with the ignition. Side lights are on as well.
2). When fog lights have to be used the headlights must be turned off – these turn off automatically when the fogs are turned on (on some cars). Side lights are on as well.
3). Spot lights not allowed to be used with headlights or fog lights at the same time – the use of spot lights is not allowed for normal use (I believe).
4). Most importantly - It is illegal to drive with only the side lights turned on (at ay time).

As far as I can see the only function for side lights is when they are used as parking lights when car is stationery and the ignition is off. So why these should come on automatically for normal driving use baffles me.  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
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I disagree with their being no need for sidelights I often travel on the motorways just before dusk and find full headlights can be very distracting if it's not very dark....just my thoughts!

They are also better to use in thick fog in conjunction with the fog lights...

Then driving like that you are breaking the law and you ARE a danger to other road users

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I disagree with their being no need for sidelights I often travel on the motorways just before dusk and find full headlights can be very distracting if it's not very dark....just my thoughts!

They are also better to use in thick fog in conjunction with the fog lights...

Never mind all that Avtur is your car locked?

MY Audi's auto lights used to revert to dipped beam rather that the last setting used .

The most annoying thing though must be rear fog-lights I hate the damn things. I will only use it in really bad conditions but then I turn it off if another car starts to follow me as he has obviously seen me so doesn't need blinding. I would almost never use one at night as the fog has to be extreme for side lights to be ineffective.


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Chill out guys I won't be lectured at by you (especially Dave/Avtur) how dare you accuse me of being a danger to anyone when you don't know me....

Sorry but I had to respond to that, I do 25k miles a year and made a genuine error as I simply did not know that using sidelights was illegal on the M'Way especially as my Dad's Volvo had this feature in 1985 and I see thousands using sidelights every day... it's not like I was using no lights or side lights in the dark whilst reversing down the M1 at 100mph with fogs on (when there's no fog of course) and hogging the overtaking lanes whilst talking on my mobile phone with a child on my lap...get some perspective!

Let's get back to the friendly debate and banter that I see daily please... this is a happy place in cyberspace!

i have just read the full thread again, i don't believe they was lecturing you IMO, but putting across valid points.

I for one didn't know (where it is correct or not) that driving with just your side lights on is illegal, I used to often drive with my side lights on, Not so much for the bloke in front, but they also switch the rear lights on, so your more visible, front and rear, which can not be a bad thing at all

But i do think they come on too early, they are set to come on at a certain level of darkness, if its a sudden darkness like a tunnel they will come on and then go off, if its a gradual fade to darkness like going into a thunderstorm and back out into a sunny period then the lights stay on for a limited time, just incase you have driven into a bright tunnel or forecourt. This stops the light from switching on and off straight away.

I have actually been told by the police for driving with full lights on, gave me a friendly warning did the police officer as if i didn't know they was, i told him i new they was on and off i went when the lights changed. No pulling over with his light just left me to my choice to have them on. Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

What about Audi's daytime running lights are they illegal then?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't know....

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Chill out guys I won't be lectured at by you (especially Dave/Avtur) how dare you accuse me of being a danger to anyone when you don't know me....

Who's lecturing You made a statement about your driving and I am entitled to my opinion

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Nice.

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Thats what the " " button is F for

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