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fitting a new battery

My 2007 TD4 SE is going to need a new battery soon and I wondered if anyone had changed one or is it a dealer job?What do the dealers charge-anyone know? Stornaway grey SE auto with 18" alloys

Post #200322 23rd Sep 2013 8:00 am
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Apache



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So very easy. There's not even a radio code (or not on or MY2008 anyway).

Noddy job.

Post #200332 23rd Sep 2013 10:16 am
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fredastaire



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May I enquire why you think you need a new battery?
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Yes it's possible that yours is time expired however I would reccomend you search posts on here about faulty earth leads and how other owners add a new earth leaf direct from the battery to the starter motor.
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It's worth a look and think first.
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Post #200336 23rd Sep 2013 10:56 am
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Well it will be 6 years old in December and it only shows 12volts which I am told is below what it should be.Don't want to have problems this winter. Stornaway grey SE auto with 18" alloys

Post #200341 23rd Sep 2013 11:31 am
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pab



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Apache wrote:
Noddy job.

It is, but you need to know that bad things happen if you accidentally short out the terminals on the battery. Potentially very bad (fireworks, spanners flying through the air, fried electrics, etc)!

So, start by covering up the positive (red) terminal (including all the exposed metal around it) so you can't touch it by mistake, then disconnect the negative (black) terminal.

Then, moving the wiring well away from the terminal so it can't accidentally re-connect, cover the negative terminal and disconnect the positive, again moving the wiring well away from the battery. Then you can extract the battery.

N.B. The reasoning behind disconnecting the negative first is that the car itself is connected to the negative terminal of the battery (negative earth), so if you detach the positive first then accidentally touching any part of the car with your spanner will cause a short. If you disconnect negative first then only touching the other terminal is going to cause a short (and hopefully you've got the other terminal well covered).

Sorry if I've laboured that a bit, but you really don't want to short out the battery!

Post #200342 23rd Sep 2013 11:34 am
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WarriorBez



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That's a very good explanation "pab" it's easy to forget the simples things and just say get on with it BUT not everybody understands things like others do Thumbs Up Black FL2
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Post #200354 23rd Sep 2013 1:36 pm
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Apache



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Have you ever seen a garage replace a battery? Unbolt clamp, loosen terminals. Remove both terminals (tuck to side) and lift out battery.

It takes longer to get the socket set out. There is no need to get anal about covering terminals etc.

With the Discos you remove terminals and short positive to negative with a spanner to hard reset the car.

Over the years I've generated plenty of sparks (mainly jump starting tractors) and never had a problem.

Be sensible, but there is no need to try and worry the poor sole on what is the easiest bit of DIY mechanicing possible (takes more effort to change a wheel or a light bulb on these cars, and don't start me on the bloody oil filter)

Post #200356 23rd Sep 2013 1:44 pm
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Post #200357 23rd Sep 2013 1:54 pm
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pab



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Apache wrote:
Have you ever seen a garage replace a battery? Unbolt clamp, loosen terminals. Remove both terminals (tuck to side) and lift out battery.

Which is exactly how I do it, but I know what I'm doing. The OP has clearly not changed a battery before, and in that case it pays to take that extra bit of care. Maybe we've been lucky so far, but there are other examples of people who've been injured by flying tools, been sent flying themselves, destroyed wiring, etc. Worth being careful the first time or two, I think.

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WarriorBez



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Totally agree with you, it does seem OTT to 99% of us BUT like you say to somebody who has obviously not done it before and not as confident as we are it was a very well written explanation in this case Thumbs Up

I work with voltages up to 11,000 volts in my job but some people have no concept of how things work and without knowing a persons background or abilities then being a little over cautious is not a bad thing Very Happy Black FL2
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hinchy



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Had to buy a new battery my self last June, I knew it was on its last legs but it let me down when I was in the lakes and the nearest place was Halfords. Payed abit more than I liked but Sunday afternoon that's the going rate. Plus I payed £6 to have it fitted as I couldn't be bothered but ended up helping the guy as he wasn't sure how to remove the battery.

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Pete The Biker



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Apache wrote:
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With the Discos you remove terminals and short positive to negative with a spanner to hard reset the car........



I have seen others give this advice, and it always sends shivers down my spine.

For the uninitiated I think it would be wise to state that it is the positive and negative leads that you are shorting after they have been disconnected from the battery, not the positive and negative terminals on the battery!!!

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batterys are at most dangerous when on charge they gas off hydrogen, A mate nearly got blinded when a battery blew up in his face.

An employee got his flat cap blow off by an exploding battery. no I do not wear a flat cap, so kill that stereotype now At work
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dunkley201



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I had that happen in my garage years ago. The battery disintegrated. Was finding bits of plastic months afterwards. Shocked 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

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Dont forget to reset the windows.

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