Hi
I am considering getting a remap soon as I love the performance when in Sand mode, can anyone tell me how much better the performance is with a remap (I know it varies from map to map), will it be anything like the performance when in Sand mode as that is pretty quick?

Thanks

Last edited by Mr K on 25th Jan 2013 1:09 pm. Edited 1 time in total

Do you mean "sand" mode as snow mode dulls the power

yes, sorry 'Sand' mode, post edited

You don't get any more performance out of sand mode, it just adjusts the throttle settings so the throttle opens faster, you get the power coming in faster but there is no more in total.

It's absolutely nothing like the increased performance you get with a remap so get it done!

I have spent all afternoon calling local independent LR garages that do remaps, they use Autologic, but none of them can tell me how much or what the specs are so I visited the Autologic website and nothing there, so I called them, they said it has been taken off their site but she can tell me the numbers over the phone, 20Bhp increase from 132 to 150, my maths isn't great but that's not right!
I asked if she had a PDF she could email me, but she didn't!

If they put the same amount of effort into creating the map as they do into marketing it then it can't be very good, guess I'll look elsewhere!

Go with a tuning chip. The good ones are plug n play. They come with the same connectors as your vehicle so you can easily remove it if you need dealer servicing. I'm looking at using the Chip Express one. On the SD4 140kw increases to 179kw. Torque increases from 420Nm to 549Nm. Eliminates turbo lag. "I'm a fuel injected suicide machine"

What does it do to your insurance premium? Ours - 2008 Stornoway Grey HSE Auto
Tricia's - 2006 Royal Blue Beetle Cabriolet Auto
Mine - 2014 Vespa GTS 300 Super Sport Matt Black
Ours - 2007 White Bailey Pageant Champagne

Superchips bluefin is a good one as you can drop in the original map when ever you want. regarding insurance, it depends who you are with and what your circumstances.

I was charged about another £40. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

I would not remap a manual. Clutch/DMF struggles to cope with standard power and torque. (Coming) 2016 RR Evoque td4 180 HSE Dynamc
(Going) 2013 TD4 GS Auto - Santorini Black with black leather. Cold Climate, UK Lighting & Armrest Packs. Privacy Glass. LR Rubber Mats. Full size spare.
60 000 miles averaging 35mpg

(Gone) 2010 TD4 Manual GS - Stornoway Grey. Sold at 3yrs old & 64k miles. Final average consumption 39.2mpg.

Interesting to consider what would happen if you bought one of these "chipped" cars second-hand. Could invalidate your warranty and your insurance without your ever realising it until crunch time.

flylr wrote:

I would not remap a manual. Clutch/DMF struggles to cope with standard power and torque.

Past master wrote:

Interesting to consider what would happen if you bought one of these "chipped" cars second-hand. Could invalidate your warranty and your insurance without your ever realising it until crunch time.

I had my56 td4 manual done by alive tuning at one of the big land rover shows for £250 There is a show coming up soon at Harrogate. If you can wait until may you can get some good deals at the shows

Mav71 - That's the sensible solution, and you would hope it would be the case always. Still a bit worrying though. I suspect that if you bought from a LR dealer you would have no problem, but if say you bought privately it could be a bit dodgy.

Deuteronomiser, I think you missed the point - if I chip my own car then I sort out my insurance. If I unknowingly buy a car that has been chipped (for example if the previous owner has forgotten to add the go-faster stripes and spoiler) then I think the ground I am on is much less firm.

To me it is just common sense. The clutch/dmf is a weak point on these vehicles. It's a conclusion drawn from simply spending a long time on this forum and what 2 dealers have confirmed.

I cant comment on whether the Evoque is the exact same clutch/dmf/gearbox and ratios - but it is a fair bit lighter than the freelander which helps reduce stress on the drivetrain.

A new map can be written in such a way that the torque curve is controlled in all or certain gears to alleviate stress on the drivetrain (which is what any manufacturer would do if necessary - and rumoured to have done on the Freelander) but can you be sure that all aftermarket mappers will do this? Bluefin may well have taken this all into account but I doubt all mappers would. Obviously driving style is relevant - you can squeeze umpteen extra bhp out of an engine by way of a remap, bigger turbo etc - and if driven sympathetically everything will last, but if driven with vigour may cause a component failure that may not have happened on the standard spec.

And when all is said and done, if your 190bhp evoque trashes the clutch under warranty you have a chance of claiming, if your remapped freelander does then you dont have a leg to stand on unless of course you cover it up.

Feel free to continue to be wound up but I stand by this statement. It is my opinion and I would personally not remap a manual Freelander or recommend anyone else does the same unless they are willing to take the risk. You were, and I am pleased to note are happy with the result. But a handful of success stories is not enough to prove the reliability of a remap as a general rule.

Mav71 wrote:

flylr wrote:

I would not remap a manual. Clutch/DMF struggles to cope with standard power and torque.

Sorry but his sort of answer really winds me up. So where did you come to this conclusion.

I have owned mine for 5/ 1/2 years and it has been re-mapped with Blufin for just over 5 years. 45,000 miles covered since it was done, and still on the same DMF which is still perfect.

Clutch was changed but this was down to faulty clutches being fitted to early cars, just after the map was done.

So your comments are total rubbish. The SD4 Evoque runs the same clutch, DMF and gearbox as the Freelander 2, which produces the same figures as a re-mapped Freelander.