http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20384431

The nails in the coffin me thinks  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Last edited by muddywheels on 19th Nov 2012 2:08 pm. Edited 1 time in total

Hopefully they might improve the clutch, flywheel, diff, wheel bearings, autobox, wheelarch trims, sat nav screen with rubbery new designs using Chinese parts and none of your British rubbish

This is old news...as in about a year old.

They're doing it because there is such a high import tax to pay on cars going into China. It more than doubles the price of the car. Build them over there, you can reduce the buying price, and sell more products.

At the moment, they won't be exporting from china! Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

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muddywheels wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20384431

The nails in the coffin me thinks

Nails in coffin?? is JLR in its death throes or riding jubilantly with its highest ever production and profits?

Sorry but really don't know how you came to the conclusion that this is JLR about to die?????

Probably a British thing to bash your successes

New engine plant next currently being built next to the M54 will supply Solihull and Halewood.
Hardly a nail in the coffin methinks  Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

If you want to sell in China you need to build in China! John
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This is a good thing for JLR. There will be no bad points about it.

Sales in China will dry up if they don't do it. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Mona Geeza wrote:

Hopefully they might improve the clutch, flywheel, diff, wheel bearings, autobox, wheelarch trims, sat nav screen with rubbery new designs using Chinese parts and none of your British rubbish

Silly me - of course it is good news for the uk - they have no intention of building them abroad and closing the uk plants even though they can build them cheaper abroad

I bet Ford and Cadburys workers thought they would be ok too  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

If they were going to close down the UK plants, why are they building a brand new one in the West Midlands over the next 2/3 years? Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

Chinese workforce is starting to demand better conditions, better wages. More and more companies are looking to move out of China, niche markets predominantly.
The move into China does seem strange when you consider JLR have an Indian parent, it is as someone mentioned for import tax reasons, wise move

I firmly believe manufacturing will start to spread out from China, the challenge the UK, or more rightly the way things are going, England will have is that we are not big enough to manufacture products for new emerging global markets.

A really good factory worker wage in China is 300 pounds a month for a 6 day week. You can't make them in England and sell them to China, it costs too much. There are a billion people there so worth the exercise.

I think the days of dirt cheap labour in China are just about over. If sales of JLR products has increased 20 times, it shows how the economy there is booming. And dirt cheap labour would start to hold that boom back. Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

Yorkshire - God's County

more likely a 2 tier society will emerge then a load of social unrest or civil war. At work
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This is good news for JLR as they are now called, but potentially bad news for Halewood and UK car manufacturing. Currently Halewood is the sole source for Freelander with the majority of production going for export and a high percentage of this to China. The factory is producing 24/7 at the moment to keep up with orders for Freelander & Evoke, great for the work force & the UK economy. But as JLR have stated Freelander will be the first product off the Shanghai production lines in 2014 & a new JLR production facility in Puna India also underway, makes you think long term surely this can only mean lower production output for Halewood to start with then other JLR facilities in the future. For JLR it makes them more viable as a company to be able to produce & sell in areas where high import duties hurt volume sales.
So depending on your outlook yes it’s a warning sign for JLR workers & the UK economy, but if all you’re interested in is JLR PLC & the next JLR vehicle these moves to manufacture outside the UK will long term strengthen JLR/Tata as a company & India’s economy.