Forum-Gallery-Shop-Sponsors

« Advertise on Freel2.com

Home > Technical > Large picture of rear axle on drivers information screen.
Post Reply  Down to end
Page 2 of 2 <12
Print this entire topic · 
JST



Member Since: 01 Nov 2011
Location: Lizant
Posts: 1098

France 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Narvik Black

EYorkshire wrote:
The Haldex allows the Freelander 2 to be permanent 4 wheel drive with the bonus of being a 'part time' system when not needed.
The Freelander 1 used a Haldex system that was reactive and needed wheel slip to operate, whereas the 2006/7 Freelander 2 is pro-active and with it's sensors can lock up before slippage can occur. In 2009 Freelander 2's went to another generation of Haldex that is faster still in transmitting torque to the rear and individual wheels,

The torque between front and back wheels is infinitely variable and if conditions wanted it, it could switch 100% torque to the rear but under normal conditions it is biased 90-95% towards a front wheel drive. It is an 'on demand' system that will put the full torque where needed within 150ms.

The Terrain Response programs pre-set the front/rear torque and adjusts as it sees fit.


Being in pedant mode, I think the Freelander 1 had a viscous coupling not a Haldex Whistle ....unless someone knows better..... John
07 HSE Narvick Black
Land Rover Series One
Triumph Rocket 111 (sadly gone!)

Post #135691 11th Mar 2012 6:21 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
chicken george



Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: N. Yorks
Posts: 13283

United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

drive cannot be stopped to the front so in reality the max split is 50:50 At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Post #135693 11th Mar 2012 6:21 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
EYorkshire



Member Since: 18 Nov 2010
Location: (!)
Posts: 4392

You are right JST, a reactive viscous coupling Thumbs Up

CG, from the Haldex explanation,

Quote:
Click image to enlarge


The 'Power transfer unit' sits at the gearbox end transfers front to back as needed, this is where the front half shafts and rear propshaft is sited
https://www.freel2.com/gallery/displayimag...amp;pos=58

Of course I'm only researching this and could be as wrong as I might be right, so welcome anybody's views Thumbs Up in the end we all learn something.

Post #135701 11th Mar 2012 6:45 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
chicken george



Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: N. Yorks
Posts: 13283

United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

that isnt shifting the power from the front to the back, its the rare case when both front wheels get no grip so the load is all on the back wheels At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Post #135796 12th Mar 2012 1:22 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
EYorkshire



Member Since: 18 Nov 2010
Location: (!)
Posts: 4392

Where do you get your 50/50 figure from Question Is it written down anywhere Question

Post #135798 12th Mar 2012 1:30 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
chicken george



Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: N. Yorks
Posts: 13283

United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

basically the rears either join in partially or fully. when they are fully joining in its 50:50, there is nothing in the car that is capable of sending drive to the rears without turning atleast one front wheel . At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Post #135801 12th Mar 2012 1:41 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
EYorkshire



Member Since: 18 Nov 2010
Location: (!)
Posts: 4392

50:50 it is then Thumbs Up

Post #135827 12th Mar 2012 3:01 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
chicken george



Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: N. Yorks
Posts: 13283

United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

dont argue with me again, I am all knowing Whistle At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Post #135835 12th Mar 2012 3:46 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
EYorkshire



Member Since: 18 Nov 2010
Location: (!)
Posts: 4392

where would I be without you to enlighten me Laughing
I'm only going along with your thinking until someone knows different Whistle

Post #135839 12th Mar 2012 4:03 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
taztastic



Member Since: 03 Feb 2011
Location: North West
Posts: 8652

England 

nb. The above is CG knowledge so may be far removed from the truth Whistle

Post #135840 12th Mar 2012 4:09 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
chicken george



Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: N. Yorks
Posts: 13283

United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Santorini Black

basically the prop to the rear wheels can only turn when the fronts do, the haldex at the rear decides if and when to sent some of that force to the rears At work
At home

"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race

Post #135843 12th Mar 2012 4:17 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Biscay



Member Since: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Burton on Trent
Posts: 94

United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e XS Manual Biscay Blue

Been out and had a play. axle only displayed when in mud ruts mode. As much as I tried i didnt get it to come up in grass/ snow or programs off. Didnt try sand though.

Thanks everyone for their input, learnt alot from this post.

Cheers.

Post #136018 13th Mar 2012 6:45 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Reply with quote
Captain Worm



Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Solihull
Posts: 969

United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Narvik Black

Will come on when hdc enabled also Thumbs Up Freelander 2 TD4 Auto, SE, Narvik Black, Alpaca full leather, Rear Headrest Entertainment System, 6 CD, 18 HSE Wheels, Privicy tints

Post #136056 13th Mar 2012 9:53 pm
View user's profile Send private message View poster's gallery Post Reply
Post Reply  Back to top
Page 2 of 2 <12
All times are GMT + 1 Hour

Jump to  
Previous Topic | Next Topic >
Posting Rules
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Site Copyright © 2006-2024 Futuranet Ltd & Martin Lewis
Freel2.com RSS Feed - All Forums


Switch to Mobile site