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jules



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Haldex Gen4 input flange nut & seal ?where to put seal

I need to get the large input drive flange off my Gen 4 haldex in order to remove the haldex pump (I know its not necessary on other haldex units)
Its retained with a nut (LR076676). As it is torqued up to 130nm I was going to use a new one.

But this single nut comes with a seal and so is about £25 to £40 depending on source Shocked

The JLR manual makes no mention of a seal when reinstalling the drive flange - just says use a new nut.

Where does the seal go ?
Is a new seal required each time the flange is removed?
Can you get the nut without a new seal ?(probably not) Jules

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I managed to remove my Gen 4 pump without removing the flange I did this by rotating the pump about 180 degrees after taking the two 4mm allen screws out and cleaned up the end of the pump casing with coarse wet n dry so it "just" cleard the flange, I would imagine any seal would go behind the nut as same as Defender output nuts ??? 2013 FL2 XS.
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Did mine on Friday. Re used the nut. Impact driver spun it off easily. Flange tapped off easily, didn't need to used pullers. It's not a nyloc nut so I'd no issues reusing it. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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There's no need to remove the drive flange from the Haldex to get the pump off. It's a tight fit, but the pump will come off without removing the flange.
There just enough of a gap between the pump and flange, to allow the pump to clear the casing so it can be removed.

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@Rommel @Nodge
Unfortunately, yes there is because my Gen 4 has a much larger flange than yours. Rolling Eyes
Just compare my pics with yours in relation to the pump and flange






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Yours is the version with the harmonic balancer on it on the drive flange. Big Cry 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Soon to be sold.
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Too right, its a PITA. And it makes such a difference - NOT.

So anyone know anything about why the nut and seal are not sold separately ?

I find it odd. You can buy a crankshaft bolt without a crankshaft oil seal. Jules

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Bell Engineering tell me that the seal is the haldex pinion seal.
Why it comes with the nut I dont know.
However, both the original nut and seal are reusable - with new thread lock on the nut of course and that's what I'm going to do. Jules

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Bell did mine a few weeks ago without removing the flange, 2014 TD4

Correction, my apologies I didn’t realise some had harmonic balancers fitted Rolling Eyes 64 plate TD4 SE Santorini Black
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