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AT1963



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Orkney Grey
Replace brake hoses

I have no record of my brake hoses being replaced (vehicle now 9 years old) and it is mentioned in LR service schedule that it should be done every 6 years!
Is this necessary to do?
Also, what about braided hoses that may last longer?
Any advice always welcome.

Post #420055 2nd Apr 2022 8:44 am
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Lightwater



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Ukraine 2013 Freelander 2 2.0T SE Auto Fuji White

I've had 2 cars 18 & 25 years old, never replaced brake hoses.

I take it that the brake lines are bled every 3 years. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Nodge68



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It's on the maintenance schedule, so if you were to have brake failure which resulted in an accident, then technically you could be liable for driving a vehicle with incorrectly maintained brakes.

My answer would be yes they should be changed, because last year my wife's Fiat 500 was almost involved in an accident, because the NS front brake hose pulled apart, which resulted in zero brakes. Luckily she was able to stop in time with the hand brake.

However this is a common issue on the 500, and it's not common on an LR.

However I did change all my Freelander brake hoses, along with the calipers, rotors and pads, simply because my kids travel in the vehicle, and I didn't want to take any chances. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
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MotionInc



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I use braided lines bought from a British supplier on ebay. Thumbs Up
I change fluid every 3 years and use Motul 5.1

Post #420061 2nd Apr 2022 2:40 pm
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jules



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

I changed the disks and calliper carriers last year and replaced the hoses at the same time - car is 7 years old.
I too used braided hoses from a UK manufacturer on Ebay - choice of colours. Pioneer 4x4
I'm happy with them. Jules

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seagull1



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Sumatra Black

Mine was serviced by Land Rover for the first 10 years and they never replaced any hoses.

Richard FL2 07 TD4 GS Auto
Ex 02 TD4 Auto

Post #420076 2nd Apr 2022 11:35 pm
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Lightwater



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I did help the owner of an unbreakable Toyota on the Oodnadatta Track. A solid section of the brake line plumbing had snapped. Folded over the pipe as tight as possible & said just try to coast into town without using the brakes. Fortunately Toyota has service centres in every village for their unbreakable cars! Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Grimdog



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e HSE Manual Barolo Black

I have replaced all the rear braking components on a FL1, Inc the flexis, and also a complete brake system replacement on an mx5 mk1, which included goodrige braided hoses. It made a big difference on both cars, but it would wouldn't it, as they were both 20+ years old Rolling with laughter

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merlinj79



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I replaced my hoses, I doubt they needed but whatever.

Do the braided hoses affect the brake feel on the freelander? The stock feel is reasonably firm as it is.

I ask because it's my wife's car, and firm braided hoses can actually cause other brake parts to be over-stressed in a panic stop... the "give" on the brake hoses is actually engineered as part of the dynamics of the system as a kind of shock absorber.

I use braided teflon on my acura sports car, significantly firmer feel, but I'm the only one who drives it and I know not to just stomp with all my might.

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Bobupndown



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Orkney Grey

Replaced rubber hoses with braided stainless ones on my Discovery 2. Didn't notice any difference. Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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CED



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Yes why should braided hoses feel different. The braids are only protective. If a hose is expanding there is something seriously wrong

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Nodge68



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All rubber hoses swell under pressure, braded hoses don't, as the braids stop them swelling, which is the idea. Thumbs Up Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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Steve D



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I've been in the motor trade for over 45 years. I've worked in several main dealers. I've never changed a flexible brake hose as a matter of routine, only when they have been found perished or cracked and I haven't seen any perished or cracked ones in the last 15 years or more. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

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Grimdog



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United Kingdom 2010 Freelander 2 TD4_e HSE Manual Barolo Black

Since the MOT history has been available online, I have noticed many references to damaged or degraded flexis whilst researching potential purchases.

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merlinj79



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Nodge68 wrote:
All rubber hoses swell under pressure, braded hoses don't, as the braids stop them swelling, which is the idea. Thumbs Up


Actually, what we call "stainless steel" or "braided" hoses are in fact teflon hoses.

The teflon is firmer than rubber... better feel and response but not as much natural "shock absorption" capacity.

The stainless braid is just to protect the outer surface of the teflon hose, apparently it's more sensitive to physical damage than rubber.

Post #420303 13th Apr 2022 4:39 am
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