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munkycheeks



Member Since: 24 Jul 2017
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Switzerland 
Winter Wheels and Tyres

Hi there

Firstly apologies if I am found to be repeating the subject and details of a previous post. I'm new to the forum and I believe I've searched for the answers thoroughly!

Over in Swiss, we are forced down a route to add winter tyres. It is not mandatory but insurance companies could disclaim, should you be found not in full control of your car if an event occurs and damages could have been prevented with the correct equipment (e.g. weather appropriate tyres).

I'm quite happy to follow; [ https://www.wheel-size.com/size/land-rover/freelander-2/2014 ] for the standard fitments.

From this, I have derived that the recommended winter fittings should be the 17" wheel 7.5J with an offset of ET55 and a tyre size of 235/65. All fine.

Now then... to mitigate damage to my 19" diamond turned LR wheels and to ideally follow the recommended wheels/tyres for the winter season I am looking to buy a set of additional wheels. 17" which would suit the ET55 offset.

Ideally I'd buy a genuine set of LR Freelander 2 wheels. I have also seen the "DEZENT TE" can be seen here as a recommended fit for Freelander 2 (my model)
click link

However, on the DEZENT website, the PCD 5x108 says that the offset = ET48

If you had wondered, I think I'll go for the Firestone Destination Winter in size 235/65 R17 108 V


My questions are as follows.

1) ET48 on a recommended ET55 fitting? Is this a big problem? The wheel is suitable for the car according to mytyres as above.

2) Does anyone know (aside from ebay click link) where I might be able to purchase a set of 4 Genuine Freelander 2 17" Shadow Chrome 5 Split Spoke Alloy Wheels?

Feedback greatly appreciated. MY15, 2.0 Si4 HSE Luxury

Post #328953 11th Aug 2017 12:35 pm
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Largered



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I run INSA Dakar Turbo 235/65/17 on LR steel rims.

Post #328960 11th Aug 2017 2:13 pm
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Past master



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Not sure what's available in CH but remember you can also fit Evoque wheels (usually these come as 18"). Plenty of these for sale over here, and would probably ship out to you - I bought a set shipped from Northern Ireland. You might even find someone on the forum who could take delivery for you and might be able to bring them to you, although it's quite a long shot! Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS

Post #328983 11th Aug 2017 6:21 pm
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munkycheeks



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Cheers Past master. I had thought about Evoque wheels although the offset is ET45 isnt it? Therefore the DEZENT TE wheels would be closer at ET48. If Evoque wheels dont cause any issues, however, then this probably answers my question I guess.
Great shout though and thank you, I appreciate the feedback. MY15, 2.0 Si4 HSE Luxury

Post #328986 11th Aug 2017 6:40 pm
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Yes, Evoque wheels are fine. The difference is so small as not to be noticeable. Not good to use FL2 wheels on an Evoque though, as there isn't quite enough clearance (but not your problem!) Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS

Post #329004 11th Aug 2017 11:29 pm
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anglaslt



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Lithuania 2015 Freelander 2 2.0T HSE Auto Havana

Here winter tyres are mandatory. I bought a used set of Evoque 19" wheels and fitted Vredestein Wintrac 4 tyres. The standard 235/55 R19 fitment is a relatively high profile for a 19" rim and has performed well in quite severe conditions. driving on the right side

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dorsetfreelander



Member Since: 20 Jul 2013
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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 XS Auto Loire Blue

Given the awful summer we are having in the UK I think there is a case for winter tyres all year round. Crying or Very sad 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto no real problems
FL2 S 08 reg 100k no problems
FL2 S 10 reg Gearbox, clutch, throttle body, drive shaft, steering reservoir
FL2 GS 60 reg xfer box, diff and wheel bearings
FL2 GS 11 reg gearbox ,hesitation, exhaust sensors, wiper stalk,
FL2 XS 14 reg SD4 Auto , door lock problem @ 29k

Post #329021 12th Aug 2017 9:00 am
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Quite a few people do run them all year round. I'd be tempted to do that on the Vredesteins as they seemed to wear very well. The main reason for winter tyres here is night-time and early morning driving, when winter temperatures (and sometimes summer too!) are usually below the magic 7 degrees C. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS

Post #329033 12th Aug 2017 2:43 pm
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Largered



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You may want to look at Ford Mondeo wheels and Tyres ......... as Ford engineers designed the FL2, not Land Rover engineers. Most parts are a common fit when it comes to running gear.

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Past master



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I imagine the Ford wheels are not designed to take either the weight of the FL2 or the stress of off-road driving. I would not be happy to chance it, and I suspect my insurance would not be either! Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS

Post #329036 12th Aug 2017 3:29 pm
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Largered



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Past Master ......... the FL2 steel wheels are identical to the Ford wheels.

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Past master



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Learn something every day on this forum! Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS

Post #329070 12th Aug 2017 10:43 pm
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munkycheeks



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Thanks for all of the above. I gather ET45-ET55 offsets should do as a generic, the closer to ET55 the better?
I could just buy some replacement tyres in 19" but I don't want to risk damaging the alloys with the on/off process twice a year.
A smaller wheel with a 65 profile should also help the ride no? hence my 17" choice, as guided by "wheel size" link earlier in original post.
I'll take silence as though I'm not doing anything fundamentally wrong and let you know how it goes... any other thoughts on this pls share!
Cheers. MY15, 2.0 Si4 HSE Luxury

Post #329135 14th Aug 2017 12:28 pm
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Yorky Bob



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United Kingdom 2013 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Firenze Red

Got Vredesteins on a set of alloy wheels for my wifes sporty type car in Winter. Came from tyremen in Hull.

https://www.tyremen.co.uk/

Running the FL2 all year on 17" Michelin Crossclimates (had to uprate speed rating to find them available). 51 Series one passed/sold on half restored to a mate to finish years ago.
Lots of Euro Trash
53 Series one low mileage let go foolishly years ago looking at current prices.
Series 2A Safari restored fully while in Saudi Arabia years ago, sold on to a Brit.
FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

Post #329145 14th Aug 2017 1:59 pm
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munkycheeks



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If anyone does have questions related to the subject of wheel offset and ET fitments, I have found the forumlae on this site very useful. https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre-article/wheel-width-and-et-offset
I believe on the Freelander 2 the front 1601mm and the rear 1614mm.
I see on https://www.wheel-size.com/size/land-rover/freelander-2/2014/ the min/max ET ranges from 35 to 55 but using the calculation for a 7.5J 17" wheel, the minimum ET should really be 39.

Depending on whether I get back to the UK before "winter season" is upon us, I will either source some LR genuine 17s with an offset of ET55 or if not, I'll go for the DEZENT wheels at ET48.

Sorry to bore... hopefully someone will get some use from this post. Thumbs Up MY15, 2.0 Si4 HSE Luxury

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