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turboextreme



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Flat tyre Driven quite a few miles on it?

Great start to a Monday morning Censored Got to work 5 am when parked I noticed the left rear tyre was slightly bulging.
Plugged my inflator on it to find only 7psi Shocked I had driven 150 miles on sunday with the flat and didn't notice any signs of having a flat it didn't even make a difference with the handling.
Had a lot of cursing and swearing trying to change the tyre in the dark using the stupid suppied unused jack what a faff even have grazed knuckles from using the thing.
Once i had removed the wheel i found a large screw in the tyre.





Why is there a speed rating on the spare?






I think I might look around for some sort of tyre monitoring device which will let me know if I have a flat.

Post #274995 7th Sep 2015 10:11 am
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Lightwater



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.... & maybe replace the biscuit as well!

I keep a pair of leather gloves in the car to save knuckles. Unfortunately have had to change too many tyres. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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I remember driving maybe upto 150 miles on a flat at motorway speeds when I first got the car. Didn't know it was flat may I add and the car didn't show any ill effects as I was driving it.

Was driving back from Devon to Leeds, got around 150 miles and decided to stop at the service station. As soon as I got out of the car I notice the rear passenger tyre was totally flat. Drove the rest of the way at a tentative speed with one of those space savers 50mph on.

Post #275019 7th Sep 2015 12:31 pm
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Steve D



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Looks to me like that tyre is unrepairable - it looks to me like sidewall damage where the tyre has rum on the rim. Not much left on it anyway. DO NOT get it repaired without having the inside of the casing examined - you'll probably find lots of shredded rubber inside.

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turboextreme



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Local tyres fitter came out with mobile van and repaired the tyre for free. The inside of the tyre was still ok so he drilled and cored the puncture.
The side wall scraping of the rear tyres are caused by the Mrs curbing the likely cause Whistle the dust on the tyres is me going off road taking my daily green lane short cut shaves a few miles of my trip to work and to avoid the traffic cues home. Mr. Green
I will be fitting some new tyres as soon as possible when I have decided what to put on.

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rchrdleigh



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Speed rating on the spare is due to it being mounted on a steel wheel as opposed to an alloy wheel.

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Steve D



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Nothing to do with it being a steel rim. Tyres across an axle must be of the same size and aspect ratio EXCEPT when a different size tyre is being used as a temporary spare in which case it must be restricted to a maximum speed of 50mph/80kph and must be marked accordingly. If the tyre is the same size and aspect ratio as the other tyre on the same axle, the speed restriction does not apply. Thumbs Up

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My first Freelander 2 had a spare tyre that was exactly the same as the tyres fitted to the vehicle but it was fitted to a steel wheel and had a speed restriction label attached to it!

Post #275083 7th Sep 2015 8:58 pm
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Steve D



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I think that's because the 'standard' 17" steel spare wheel tyre is the same size as the 17" alloy wheels that are fitted in which case the speed restriction will not apply. I suspect that whoever supplies the spare steel wheel fits the labels on all of them as they will not know which alloys will be fitted to which vehicle. They all have the same rolling circumference whether they are 17", 18" or 19" etc.

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ad210358



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Sure it's been said on here that the 50mph warning is to do with the wheel bolts being for alloy wheels and the and the temporary spare being steel. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

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Steve D



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Don't take my word for it then. Rolling Eyes

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I don't disbelieve you, but the idea of it being because of the steel wheel is quite widespread. The article you quote refers mainly to "skinny" spares. Can anyone quote chapter and verse on this (ie something from the manufacturer, not just a generic article)? Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
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Steve D



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The article specifically mentions 'Temporary use non-standard/skinny spare wheels". I'm an MOT tester. I know for a fact it is perfectly legal to mix steel/alloy wheels on the same axle as long as they have the same size tyres. It's my job to know. If a car came in with a space saver or a steel spare wheel fitted with a different size/aspect ratio tyre to the other (alloy) wheels it will not pass.

Sometimes you just have to stop looking for chapter and verse of why you can do something and instead look for a piece of legislation/law/construction and use act/MOT rules to see if there is a prohibition to doing that. I am aware of the laws regarding mixed size tyres on the same axle but I do not know of any legislation regarding using steel/alloy wheels on the same axle. What could you be charged for?

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Steve D is correct on this, it's a clause in the Construction and Use regulations which imposes this 50mph limit. Nothing to do with steel wheels and bolts, simply a size and construction difference on same axle.

Why there should be a label if the tyre is genuinely the same size and construction then no idea, apart from the one offered earlier, in that the supplier sticks it onto all of them

Just to add it's regulation 26 Mixing of Tyres in Construction and Use regs.

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