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The Road Toad



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garfield247 -

Is that van not a tad too heavy for the FL2?

Do you not take heed of the 85% advice? Tattoos - Why would you choose to look like the wall of a public toilet?

Post #236279 28th Sep 2014 9:46 pm
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If you read the thread its 1678kg so yes it's less than 85% advice


But that's only advice you don't need to abide by it and I don't mine was re-weighted to 1850kg and still tows perfectly fine Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Post #236281 28th Sep 2014 10:06 pm
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garfield247



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The Road Toad wrote:
garfield247 -

Is that van not a tad too heavy for the FL2?

Do you not take heed of the 85% advice?

Hi Toad
Yes it is over the 85% but within the legal limits for the car,but that 85% is advisory recommended by the caravan club
I also have my class one hgv license so I like to think I am a capable at towing
Been on the CC outfit matching service and they say

Caution-Kerb weight 94%
The caravan's laden weight is close to the cars kerb weight.increasing the risk of stability concerns.This outfit should not be driven by novice tower and does not meet club guidelines

ok- Towing limit 84%
The caravans laden weight is within the cars stated towing limit and therefore meets legal limitations

ok-Gross train weight 93%
The sum of the car and caravans fully laden weights is within the cars gross train weight.The outfit can therefore be used legally with both the car and the caravan fully laden

ok-nose weight 67%
The cars nose weight should be fine to safely tow this caravan

BHP per ton:40
The cars engine power should be fine to safely tow this caravan

But answering your question it is a tad heavy but it is legal and tows like a dream
Came back from Grafham water last Friday on the A1 and was easily doing the speed limit and a bit more when overtaking wagons with no adverse effects

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Mmmm thought all towing vechils were limited to 60 mph inc artics ???
or has the law changed ..???
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

http://www.caravan-advice.co.uk/uk-speed-limits.html

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garfield247



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Yes Mudslinger you are right
I was just making the point that the combination is well within its capabilities and tows very well and gives you the control and performance for any situation
Of course I would not condone speeding in any way

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Garfield, i too tow a large caravan ( Conqueror T/A ) which has a MTPLM of 1815KG and initially had concerns as to whether the Freelander could cope having previously towed with a RRS , but after a couple of trips feeling re-assured it is capable, i just had to change my driving style a little, but everything very stable

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Post #236374 29th Sep 2014 9:11 pm
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mudslinger wrote:
Mmmm thought all towing vechils were limited to 60 mph inc artics ???
or has the law changed ..???
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

http://www.caravan-advice.co.uk/uk-speed-limits.html

(is C G now buying static caravans ..??? see end of page )


Who said he was speeding, vehicles over 3.5 ton are limited to 56, so would only need to do 57 to pass one. Confused

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Actually Andy, they are limited by law to 60mph in this country. They just happen to be physically governed at 90kph max (in practice 85-90) because of European legislation, which gives you the 56/57mph. Just another harmonised Euro rule we have to live with!
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ad210358 wrote:
mudslinger wrote:
Mmmm thought all towing vechils were limited to 60 mph inc artics ???
or has the law changed ..???
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

http://www.caravan-advice.co.uk/uk-speed-limits.html

(is C G now buying static caravans ..??? see end of page )


Who said he was speeding, vehicles over 3.5 ton are limited to 56, so would only need to do 57 to pass one. Confused


actually 7.5 ton vechiles can do (not more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) 30 (4Cool 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)
60 (96) if articulated or towing a trailer

never said he was speeding just what the limits were (held a class1 for over 20 years as well ) Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Wales
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I have read that the 40mph for HGV on single carriageway is up for review beginning of next year raising up to 50mph
Which will hopefully stop the idiots in cars overtaking in crazy places

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I doubt it'll make any difference to the idiots - partly because they're idiots, and partly because no HGVs take any notice of the 40 limit and do at least 50 anyway. (Except occasionally around speed cameras, and usually not even then.) In fact, that no one takes any notice is one of the main reasons given for raising it in the first place.

Also, a consultation has just ended looking at raising the dual-carriageway limit from 50 to 60.

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our van is slightly longer than the Senator Wyoming in the picture and the same weight and it also tows like a dream and no stability issues whatsoever ! but I'm also a class 1 HGV holder for the last 35 years.
The FR2 is more than capable and the only stability issue is caused by whoever loads the van ! Thumbs Up



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mudslinger wrote:
ad210358 wrote:
mudslinger wrote:
Mmmm thought all towing vechils were limited to 60 mph inc artics ???
or has the law changed ..???
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

http://www.caravan-advice.co.uk/uk-speed-limits.html

(is C G now buying static caravans ..??? see end of page )


Who said he was speeding, vehicles over 3.5 ton are limited to 56, so would only need to do 57 to pass one. Confused


actually 7.5 ton vechiles can do (not more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) 30 (4Cool 50 (80) 60 (96) 70 (112)
60 (96) if articulated or towing a trailer

never said he was speeding just what the limits were (held a class1 for over 20 years as well ) Thumbs Up Thumbs Up


So out of the blue you quote links to speed limits Confused
It doesn't change the fact that anything now over 3.5t is limited to 56mph, which is what I stated. Rolling Eyes

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