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Bill Turner



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto Santorini Black
No Haldex in latest Freelanders

I have been informed that the very latest FL2's are not fitted with Haldex units and that the drive to the rear wheels is facilitated by a new method which uses a viscous coupling (Shades of FL1's) plus some more gizmo's which a humble electrical designer does not understand.

Informant may be extracting the Michael but would be interested to hear if others on here have heard this story?


Bill T. Life Honorary Member of Wallasey Motor Club.
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Post #181714 25th Apr 2013 6:10 pm
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pab



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Lago Grey

There have been no major mechanical changes to the FL2, as far as I am aware. Perhaps he's getting confused because Haldex Traction has been acquired by Borg Warner, thus it's now a Borg Warner Haldex unit?

The Haldex unit is an electronically-controlled wet-plate clutch, so it is a form of viscous coupling.

Post #181720 25th Apr 2013 6:52 pm
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rchrdleigh



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Haldex still fitted to MY13 Freelander and also the Evoque.
Guess someone is taking the 'michael'.

Post #181747 25th Apr 2013 8:23 pm
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Chris B



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Absolutely. TR relies on Haldex technology and it is there! Gone... 2013 XS TD4 Manual Firenze Red
Gone... 2008 (09MY) XS Td4 Manual Stornaway Grey
Prior... 2003 G4 Discovery 2, 1998 Disco 1 and 1997 Disco 1 Company car before that
Also gone in Nov'13, after 7.5 yrs, to new owners with time for more TLC - 1980 Series III 88
Current 2015 Discovery Sport HSE 2.0

Post #181757 25th Apr 2013 9:49 pm
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bigalf1961



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don't mention haldex unit my bearings have started to fail Big Cry goes in in two weeks to have them replaced under warranty mine is a 2011 spk vehicle with 33k on the clock no proper off road use but when I bought the car one of my questions was haldex unit and was told that the later versions had an up graded unit fitted l/rover really need to get on top of this. this problem is one of the Freelander Hercules heels rainy-city
xs

Post #181767 26th Apr 2013 5:42 am
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Steve D



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Or even one of its Achilles heels. Whistle Mange toute, Rodney, mange toute! Laughing Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

Post #181768 26th Apr 2013 5:51 am
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ad210358



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I don't think there have been to many on here with Haldex problems, certainly a lot more with Diff Bearings and even more with Clutch and DMF failure.

Post #181769 26th Apr 2013 6:03 am
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bigalf1961



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thought diff bearings are inside haldex unit so if bearings fail this fault is a problem with the haldex Question since owning this freelander its had 3x egr valves,4x rear tailgate brake lights,1x clutch,turbo replaced been back so many times for rear trim rattles, i cant rember ive lost count one flat spot that took 18 mts to solve l/rover say quality is paramount i thing they have a long way to go there aftersales is very good but then lets face it they say the freelander is the most reliable i beg to differ not so chuffed owner Mad rainy-city
xs

Post #181776 26th Apr 2013 7:29 am
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pab



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The 'Haldex unit' (or active on-demand coupling, as LR call it) is a self-contained unit distinct from the differential, although the two are mounted together at the rear of the car. It is my impression (but I may be wrong) that the majority of bearing failures have affected the diff itself, not the coupling.

Post #181788 26th Apr 2013 10:00 am
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Mona Geeza



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Do the new ones still have the Hercules Clutch? Laughing

Post #181793 26th Apr 2013 11:29 am
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pab



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No, the Hercules Clutch is what it needs, in place of the Achilles Clutch it actually has! Laughing

Post #181800 26th Apr 2013 12:07 pm
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